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    Default Re: 1 month ban cause... biblical saying?

    I gave you the warning point, so I guess you deserve a full and proper rationalisation for it. That is what you are about to receive...
    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    If someone on the forum went out and said he would kill his next door neighbour… That responce would probably have been, well, understating things.

    If someone went out on the forum and said that he wanted to kill a human being, that responce would probably have been ok, no?

    But hey, if it’s a US army trooper off to have some people killed, then it’s NOT ok?
    A complete strawman argument... the two threads you suggested would have been trolling for responses in the OP and would be locked on principle. In this case MRD was going out into a war zone, risking his life, and was just looking for a bit of support at what was a hard time. There was no commentary at all about him going out hoping to kill people, there was no mention of serving his country, there was nothing, just a notification that he was going. Hence your two hypothetical examples are wrong from the outset.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    And please don’t argue the point that US army troopers don’t kill people… It’s kind of what the whole military is meant for, you know, killing beings.
    Thank you, I, as a pretty hardline pacifist, was not at all aware of that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    But then some points strikes me…. Poorly timed? Seems like the perfect time to remind someone that what goes around comes around (and often harder), and wishing him that he does SOME GOOD.
    You did not make a single reference to this in your post. Not a single one at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Then second point… me even bordering to a threat to another member… I have NO idea of what perspective you would need to even come close to reading that post as me threatening another member. No seriously, go back and re-read my post just for laughs.
    Fair point, I mis-worded the infraction. What I was aiming at was more along the lines of proxy-wishing violence upon him. IE - wishing that, in a certain situation, death would come to those who caused death.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    And third, and this is the most fun one (believe it or not): that a mod gives me a warning point cause… wait for it… wishing violence against another human being is just plain wrong… And my post was about…. Wishing violence against another human being is just plain wrong…
    I'm really wondering about your policy on the death penalty right about now, but this truly isn't the place for it. Regardless, you were wishing injury upon a forum member, even if that injury was conditional upon the injury of another. We do not accept that a valid reason here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Asai Nagamasa View Post
    There is another post in the thread where the poster encourages the "killing of extremists". Personally I find this sentiment absolutely abhorrent.

    I had overlooked that in the thread and thus didn't notice it, but it is dealt with now. There is a report post button in the bottom left of every posts. If you hit that and fill it out quickly we get an Email warning and that makes it a hundred times easier to deal with.
    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    I do not believe members are required to open topics that offend their sensibilities, or respond to them. "Injecting negative comments" into a thread where a member simply announces his departure - stating no opinion on the war either positive or negative - is just rude. If a member wants to state his or her opinion on the war, the "new topic" button is at the top of the page.

    I'm not going to say this to PJ often, but spot on.

    And now, for my more full explanation of my thought-process (at least, as I remember it given it was a couple of weeks ago). Tempers always flare in the Backroom and they can cause a thread to ignite at the drop of a hat. Your post had a truly incendiary potential given that it was a blatantly political comment in a thread that was not designed as such. MRD has been a regular fixture in the Backroom for a number of years and him posting there to tell us he was going was not an invitation to comment on the war or the military, it was supposed to be an 'I'm going away to Afghanistan, just letting you guys know' thread. Just because it is in the Backroom doesn't mean that it has to be political. Your comment would have sparked a flame war if it had not been reported by a member, thus allowing me to cool it while I could. That fits my definition of trolling and as such you received the ban. The 1 month ban from the Backroom came after further discussion amongst the staff relating to a previous case where someone said something similar and it was then agreed to give that person a temporary cooling off period from the Backroom, much as you are on now. You will be welcome back at the end of your month.

    It is now 1am and I can't be bothered to type any more.

    EDIT: Was I just quoted in reference to Hemingway?
    Last edited by CountArach; 03-29-2010 at 15:11.
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