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On Germania:

Having specific, tribal "warband" units seems rather ahistorical (I find the idea of all of a tribe fighting in the same manner somewhat silly), though units representing a different. Also, the Bastarnae having Germanic names seems rather silly - they were Germanic in the sense that they shared a similar material culture and tribal, relatively collectivist way of live with the Balts and Germans of the time, not that they shared a language with the Germanic peoples living several hundred miles away.

For the Lugians and Swabians, I propose a roster outline something like this:

--- Germanic Units ---
Jugunðiz (Germanic Skirmishers) - Basic skirmish unit, equipped with several javelins and an underhand spear
Gaisofulxo Frijod (Germanic Levy Spearmen) - Basic tribal spear unit.
Dugunðiz (Germanic Retainers) - Retainers of a lower-level chieftain or warlord; experienced veterans of war. Should be much stronger than they were in EB1. Equipped with several framea for throwing and melee.
Xosenthozez Xazdadoi (Germanic Bodyguards) - Germanic Bodyguards, equipped with both framea and single-edged sword.
Thexnozez Dreuguloi (Germanic Heavy Infantry) - Elite infantry, equipped with both framea and Celtic sword.
Speutogorðoz (Germanic Pikemen) - Specialist units, equipped with long spears. Form a shieldwall.

--- Lugian Units ---
Baltic Skirmishers - Basic skirmish unit, equipped with several javelins and an underhand spear. Can probably share a model with their Germanic counterparts.
Zemjones (Baltic Levy Spearmen) - Basic tribal spear unit, from EB, equipped with . Name may need changing
Baltic Retainers - Aanalogous to the Dugunðiz in role and in equipment, and can share a model with them as well.
Lugian Heavy Infantry - Celtic-style heavy swordsmen armoured in chainmail, equipped with gaisa and a La Tene sword. Can use the Neitos model.
Przeworsk Heavy Cavalry - A fusion of Gothic/Vandilic, Celtic, and Baltic cavalry traditions. Armoured in chain and equipped with a long lance, shield, and single-edged sword.
Lugian Bodyguard - Same as Przeworsk Heavy Cavalry.

--- Shared Units ---
Sloxonez (Clubmen) - Simple club unit found throughout Germania
Reiðonez (Germanic Cavalry) - Very similar to the Dugunðiz in equipment, but mounted on horses. Excellent light horsemen, should be better than in EB1.
Skeudjonez (Archers) - Simple, basic archer unit.
Slingers - Simple sling unit, can use the Iaosatae model.

--- Regional/Local Units ---
Korodrougos (Pomeranian Swordsmen) - Name will need changing. Basically retainers from the comparatively well-off tribes along the southern coast of the Baltic Sea. Equipped with single-edged swords
Aestii Clubmen - Tacitus mentions that the Aestii favored clubs - we can represent this with a unit of clubmen. Can probably share a model with the Sloxonez.
Woithiz Wotho - Will probably need a name or similar change. Nude Harii warriors, painted entirely black.

Ingaevonic Cavalry - As evidenced by increasing number of horse equipment burials in the area - cavalry became important among the peoples of Jutland and among the Chauci, who he describes as abounding in men and horses. Not sure as of what their equipment should be, but it would likely be influenced heavily by the previously dominant material culture, which was similar to that of the La Tene. I think they can just be the Germanic Heavies from EB1, but with a different name.
Cotini Swordsmen - Armoured in leather cuirasses and equipped with single-edged swords and several gaisa.
East Balto-Slavic Archers - Equipped with steppe composite bows, excellent archers far superior to their Germanic counterparts.
East Balto-Slavic Axemen - The Kirwinikos, except reskinned to be equipped with a Scythian axe.

NOTE: Despite the several high-end units, these will be very rare and available only at the highest MIC level, if we use EB's MIC system for the Germanic factions (it seems inappropriate to me).