EB2. Mod for Vanilla or BI?

[SlickNicaG69]

I was thinking... if EB I went from the beginning of Vanilla to 14 AD, then why does EB 2 do the same thing?... I understand it is being made to use the newer engine, but come on. If you're making a new game, why not change the time period as well? I'm not saying the early periods sucked. They are great because of the many cool factions and times, but I was imagining the other day playing as the Huns, or the Goths, or playing as the Imperials Romans 300 years after EB 1 when most of the army were actually mercenaries than Romans... I understand the timeline is the best in terms of the factions, but do we really want to same game again? Or should EB2 be a mod of BI?

[Krusader]

I was thinking... if EB I went from the beginning of Vanilla to 14 AD, then why does EB 2 do the same thing?... I understand it is being made to use the newer engine, but come on. If you're making a new game, why not change the time period as well? I'm not saying the early periods sucked. They are great because of the many cool factions and times, but I was imagining the other day playing as the Huns, or the Goths, or playing as the Imperials Romans 300 years after EB 1 when most of the army were actually mercenaries than Romans... I understand the timeline is the best in terms of the factions, but do we really want to same game again? Or should EB2 be a mod of BI?

We do. When we made EB1 our agenda was to make EB like how we wanted RTW to be. And EB2 is just EB1 taking advantage of M2TW engine + some changes.
And most of us enjoy this time period more too.

[Foot]

What makes you think its going to be the same game just because its in the same timeframe. Was EBI the same as RTW? Was MTW2 the same as MTW? Don't think so.

Foot

[bobbin]

Besides it's a bit late to change the setting now, unless you want to wait and extra few years for it to come out...

[Bucefalo]

Also, the area of expertise of the historians in the EB team is about the RTW period. A different period would require different people who have knowledge and interest in it, plus starting all the work from scratch. With EB II the team can use the work done with EBI, specially the research.

[A Nerd]

Why fix what isn't broken? I like the current EB timeframe.

[Subotan]

Oh man, these threads are classic

[vartan]

Oh man, these threads are classic

Not yet, but certainly getting there. I think there are several really nice mods for M2TW that are set in the time period of BI. If anybody has any that they've played and personally appreciated, aren't they allowed to list them / suggest them for the OP?

[Macilrille]

Not yet, but certainly getting there. I think there are several really nice mods for M2TW that are set in the time period of BI. If anybody has any that they've played and personally appreciated, aren't they allowed to list them / suggest them for the OP?

Good Idea.

[SlickNicaG69]

I started looking up some of the previews on EB II and I liked what I saw about the Roman Government remake. That's exactly what I was talking about. But I still regret not being able to play EB-style RTW throughout the whole era of Rome herself. I read up earlier how EB II should mod the era from the founding to the Phyrric War. Well, instead why not having it prolong until 476?

[Mediolanicus]

I started looking up some of the previews on EB II and I liked what I saw about the Roman Government remake. That's exactly what I was talking about. But I still regret not being able to play EB-style RTW throughout the whole era of Rome herself. I read up earlier how EB II should mod the era from the founding to the Phyrric War. Well, instead why not having it prolong until 476?

And how are you going to do that?

All those factions coming and going. Besides, it would be history on rails then, wouldn't it?
I mean... When you play in your alternative reality and by 50 BC you've conquered Germany as Carthago. You keep on playing and suddenly you get the message The East Roman Empire has appeared along with German hordes on your borders...

[Ibrahim]

there is a reason we have a mod series called Invasio Barbarorum.

as a result, I find it a silly idea to make EB2 set in the later Roman Empire. besides, work on EB II has already started.

thus, I decree that the OP of the thread be banished to the "Blagole", in Place of the SpoonyOne.

[Zlovie]

I was thinking... if EB I went from the beginning of Vanilla to 14 AD, then why does EB 2 do the same thing?... I understand it is being made to use the newer engine, but come on. If you're making a new game, why not change the time period as well? I'm not saying the early periods sucked. They are great because of the many cool factions and times, but I was imagining the other day playing as the Huns, or the Goths, or playing as the Imperials Romans 300 years after EB 1 when most of the army were actually mercenaries than Romans... I understand the timeline is the best in terms of the factions, but do we really want to same game again? Or should EB2 be a mod of BI?

Come on, guys.

I think you guys can be a little bit nicer to your fellow forumites.
Maybe this suggestion has been done very often.
However, you can also give a polite answer that involves that fact.

@SlickNica:
I guess you have seen it from most of the answers, but a huge amount of work has already been done on game in the normal timeframe.
It would cost years to start over again, and for as far as I know, it's not the policy of the team.
If you haven't done it yet, read the previews and see what stuff they have changed/added using the new engine...

It's absolutely gonna be a different game :D

[Macilrille]

I recently joined The Team.
Believe me, no-one not on it can imagine the amount of work being undertaken. It is stunning as a newcomer to see how much is, and has, and has yet to be, done. Notice how little I post in the public these days? Keep an eye of my # of posts and you will have an idea on how much goes on in there. To change timeframe- even if we wanted to- would be like turning the course of Maersk's largest supertanker, with a rowing boat... as I said, you have no idea.

EB II will be set in the same timeframe as EB was, because with the better engine EB II may be able to rectify all the issues the RTW engine left EB with. Issues that I know Slickniga is also not content with. I join others to suggest instead that you go have a look at mods for BI if you like that period.

[Pikenier]

Aside from the impossibility to change the timeframe I would not prefer an EB in the Barbarian Invasion timeframe. But instead one starting in the 6th century BC. Quasi a large scale version of the superb "Rise of Persia" mod. This would be an interesting timeframe with all the large eastern (asian/african) empires of that time and the classical greek city states.

[ziegenpeter]

Well I usually prefere the Migration Period aswell but for this, there is already IBFD and IBFD2 for MTW2

[mountaingoat]

lol @ the BI votes ... wth