AP EXAMS 2010

[Centurion1]

Anyone taken any yet and of so which ones I am taking Latin government calculated physics and lit so far not that bad

[seireikhaan]

Even better than AP exams- College finals.

[Centurion1]

Listen to this our Dean of academics in her infinite wisdom that even if out are in AP that class will have a final exam yeahhhhhhh smart

[GeneralHankerchief]

Just finished up with college finals, but somebody needs to tell me what the US History DBQ was this year. I'm still not over missing the legendary Vietnam DBQ by one lousy year.

[Hooahguy]

not this year, but next year it will be AP english and AP Euro history.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Just finished up with college finals, but somebody needs to tell me what the US History DBQ was this year. I'm still not over missing the legendary Vietnam DBQ by one lousy year.

Harumph! You young whipper snappers have it so easy now-a-days! Why, back when I was your age we only had one DBQ to choose from, and we were happy to get that!

Latin government calculated physics

You're taking Physics calculated by a Latin Government?! Dang.

Seriously though, no Econ AP takers?

CR

[Centurion1]

My school doesn't have economy

The you took the fabled Vietnam dbq trust me I've heard all about it last year there was something about proclamation line and blacks in ww2 society and how they benefited


About to take my AP lit exam

[Rhyfelwyr]

No idea what AP exams are but I had my first of 6 exams at Uni today. These are the big ones, I'm in third year so it's 50% this year 50% next for final degree type.

[TinCow]

I'm still not over missing the legendary Vietnam DBQ by one lousy year.

What was "legendary" about it?

[Hooahguy]

My school doesn't have economy

The you took the fabled Vietnam dbq trust me I've heard all about it last year there was something about proclamation line and blacks in ww2 society and how they benefited


About to take my AP lit exam

yea last year it was blacks in WW2 and something else about the slave trade.

[drone]

I had to look up what "DBQ" meant. Not having taken any AP history/language/lit type classes, I was clueless...

I did take AP Calculus, Chemistry, and Comp Sci back in the day. Do well on your tests, some colleges will give you course credits depending on your scores.

[GeneralHankerchief]

What was "legendary" about it?

Every single year, AP US History students were hoping that their DBQ would be on the Vietnam War. It was a relatively easy subject, not to mention fresh in everybody's minds since it was taught near the end of the year. In addition, since it was more recent, it resonated more with our generation as opposed to stuff in, say, the Gilded Age. We were all raised on stories from our parents telling us how things were in the 1960s and 70s. It was the Holy Grail of essay questions, the one thing that would be a certainty in an exam that promised nothing save for heartache. The year I took the test (May 2007) we were sure that we would get the question. It was just a feeling, combined with the fact that the test was due to make a DBQ from a more recent period anyway. So the supreme moment comes, we open up the test books... and find a question about farming in the mid-1800s staring back at us.

One year later, I'm taking the AP European History exam and talking to a friend of mine that just finished up taking the US History one. I asked him what the DBQ was. He told me Vietnam. I asked for confirmation, my comprehension of the situation taking some time to become fully clear. He provided the confirmation that I requested. I paused for a second and then broke down, weeping on the floor in front of everyone, my emotions finally overcoming me for all to see. The test proctor thought I was having a nervous breakdown, asking me what was wrong. I told him. The other people in that exam that had taken last year's exam with me opened their mouths as one. I tearfully provided confirmation, and they all broke down along with me. It was a spectacle to behold, over a dozen men and women on the cusp of adulthood, reduced to childlike states of emotion all because they had missed a test question by one year. The administration was so moved they gave us the next day off to recover and compose ourselves.

And that's why the question was legendary. An entire generation year of children denied their dreams just because we were off by one year.

[TinCow]

And that's why the question was legendary. An entire generation year of children denied their dreams just because we were off by one year.

Sounds a lot like the Summer 2003 Virginia State Bar Exam.

After graduating law school, all law students must pass the Bar to be able to practice law. The difficulty varies by state, but generally there are two parts: a standard federal multiple-choice portion which is the same in every state (except Louisiana) and a state-specific essay portion (some states also have a third 'practicum' portion). Each portion takes a full day. The test is only offered twice per year (Summer and Winter), and without it you cannot work as an attorney... so passing is extremely important. Fail, and you have to wait another 6 months before you can even make another attempt... and good luck with employment until then. There are an extremely large number of 'types' of law, such as Family Law, Patent Law, Property Law, etc. Some are relatively obscure, and some are extremely common. Nearly all law students take Bar Prep classes, particularly BarBri. BarBri actually holds about an 80 to 90% market share on Bar Prep courses, and since about 85% of all law students take Bar Prep courses, what BarBri teaches becomes gospel.

The three most common areas of law on Bar Exams are Criminal Law, Criminal Procedure, and Civil Procedure. Major questions on those appear every single year, often multiple questions. The Virginia Bar Exam has only 9 essay questions, and typically those three topics account for about 2.5 of the questions, sometimes more, so BarBri devotes a lot of time (weeks) to teaching those topics. By contrast, at the time I graduated law school, Commercial Paper and Secured Transactions had each only appeared on the Bar one time in the past 20 years. So, BarBri devoted almost no time (maybe 1 day) to teaching them and actually told people that they could skip over them if they were short on time.

The Summer 2003 Virginia State Bar Exam destroyed people. There were NO questions on Criminal Law or Criminal Procedure, and only half a question on Civil Procedure. At the same time, there was one full question on Commercial Paper and half a question on Secured Transactions (or vice versa, I can't remember exactly anymore). So, the stuff everyone had studied wasn't even asked, and the stuff no one had studied accounted for nearly 20% of the essay score. There was much anguish, and the failure rate jumped by a good 10 to 15%. It was a bad year for a lot of people. Fortunately, three days before the exam, Scienter and I decided that, even though we had been advised not to bother with Commercial Paper and Secured Transactions, we would study them anyway 'just in case.' So, we passed without any problems.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sheesh. I'm sure the makeup of that test made somebody a lot of money (assuming you have to pay every time you take the exam).

[TinCow]

Sheesh. I'm sure the makeup of that test made somebody a lot of money (assuming you have to pay every time you take the exam).

Yup, cost about $800 to register and the BarBri course was about $4-5k. I guess if you had already taken it and still had the written materials, you might be able to do it the second time without taking the course again... but I wouldn't.

[Crazed Rabbit]

The Summer 2003 Virginia State Bar Exam destroyed people. There were NO questions on Criminal Law or Criminal Procedure, and only half a question on Civil Procedure. At the same time, there was one full question on Commercial Paper and half a question on Secured Transactions (or vice versa, I can't remember exactly anymore). So, the stuff everyone had studied wasn't even asked, and the stuff no one had studied accounted for nearly 20% of the essay score. There was much anguish, and the failure rate jumped by a good 10 to 15%. It was a bad year for a lot of people. Fortunately, three days before the exam, Scienter and I decided that, even though we had been advised not to bother with Commercial Paper and Secured Transactions, we would study them anyway 'just in case.' So, we passed without any problems.

Sounds like a silly way to test.

CR

[Ice]

Sounds like a silly way to test.

CR

The CPA Exam does the same thing unforunately.

I really don't miss AP Testing at all. I took chemistry, calculus, and biology when I was in 11 & 12th grade. Got a 5 on chemistry, 5 in calculus, and 4 in biology.

[Reenk Roink]

I remember when they said that AP exams were gonna be like the things you took in college. I took the AP Stats exam and it was hard but I was prepared and got a 4. Then I went to college confident and got my butt kicked HARD with the exams there... **** you AP.

[Ice]

I remember when they said that AP exams were gonna be like the things you took in college. I took the AP Stats exam and it was hard but I was prepared and got a 4. Then I went to college confident and got my butt kicked HARD with the exams there... **** you AP.

It was same with calculus for me. When I was at Michigan for my first semester, I took calc and had to work my ass off. I ended up with a B when I scored a 5 pretty easily on the AP test and had an A in 12th grade calc.

[A Nerd]

I got a 4 on an AP History exam when I was a senior in HS. Didn't use the accomplishment in college though, for I majored in History. I graduated college, but with mediocre marks. I found the professors uninspiring...perhaps that was because I wasn't paying them much attention...

[a completely inoffensive name]

Took AP US Gov. Going to take AP Physics B and AP Economics next week. Don't worry CR, I know my stuff (I think).

[Centurion1]

^ oh yeah what did you think of the essays i liked the one of how southern voters have turned to the republican party myself, very easy to answer.

[Hooahguy]

i was talking to a friend of mine in AP Bio, and he told me how messed up his class was for the AP on monday.
so the teacher who was supposed to teach the class was also in the process of getting her degree in biochemistry from UGA. this meant she could only teach on teusdays and thursdays.
so what did my school do? hire another teacher who could only come on teusdays and thursdays.

anyways, for the past month the main teacher was finishing up getting her degree or something like that, not quite sure, and the other teacher was pretty incompetent so they rarely had class. this means that NOBODY in the class will be ready for the AP exam. a bunch of parents complained, so now they are taking the exam for free (no $80 fee) and its optional.
pretty SNAFU, eh?

[Ice]

i was talking to a friend of mine in AP Bio, and he told me how messed up his class was for the AP on monday.
so the teacher who was supposed to teach the class was also in the process of getting her degree in biochemistry from UGA. this meant she could only teach on teusdays and thursdays.
so what did my school do? hire another teacher who could only come on teusdays and thursdays.

anyways, for the past month the main teacher was finishing up getting her degree or something like that, not quite sure, and the other teacher was pretty incompetent so they rarely had class. this means that NOBODY in the class will be ready for the AP exam. a bunch of parents complained, so now they are taking the exam for free (no $80 fee) and its optional.
pretty SNAFU, eh?

They should have done outside studying. They make AP books (think cliffnotes still does) for all AP classes which basically teach you whats on the exam.

[a completely inoffensive name]

^ oh yeah what did you think of the essays i liked the one of how southern voters have turned to the republican party myself, very easy to answer.

That one was very easy. The only one that was even remotely difficult was the one asking how the different demographics (women, catholics, union members and social conservatives) had shifted in the past 40 years. And that was only because you needed to write about 3 out of the four which just took extra time.

[Centurion1]

i did social conservatives, women and catholics.

now the first question took forever!

any ap lit takers here?

[Chaotix]

Ah, wish I had seen this thread sooner.

GH-

The AP US History DBQ was on colonial New England. It was pretty easy compared to some of the free response.

I also took Calculus AB (not too bad) and I'll be taking Chemistry on Tuesday.

[Hooahguy]

They should have done outside studying. They make AP books (think cliffnotes still does) for all AP classes which basically teach you whats on the exam.

they did that, thats all theyve been doing for the past 3 weeks, but there is stuff that only a teacher can teach you... like the stuff the book doesnt teach you.

[a completely inoffensive name]

i did social conservatives, women and catholics.

now the first question took forever!

I did women, labor unions, and social conservatives. What was the first question again?

[Centurion1]

About interest groups easy but long