What are the main things you want to see fixed from EB1 in EB2???

**Moros** · 06-25-2010, 17:14

Originally Posted by athanaric

I'd like somewhat tweaked victory conditions for some factions. For example in EB I, those for Saba were more Islamic than actually related to ancient Sabaean politics.

So what do you suggest?

**MisterFred** · 06-25-2010, 17:26

The victory conditions made sense for Saba when I played them. Sure they're similar to Islamic conquests - that is the only model for conquerers swarming out of Arabia. Plus they were hard, which was great.

I mean, if you want historical victory conditions, it could be hold the four cities in the southwest corner of Arabia + Ubar, then build up a treasury of 500,000 gold, but that wouldn't be much fun, would it? :)

**Southern Rider** · 06-26-2010, 03:14

Hey folks!

I'm new to the forum, so I don't really know if this has been discussed before, so sorry if it was. I had the impression that CTD is more common when defending or assaulting cities, especially some particular ones (Massalia, for me). That is annoying especially when you are defending in a situation that you know there's a possibility to win if you play the battle, but you will certainly lose if you autoresolve it. But what I more want to see fixed, is the "uncapturable towns", like Bostra, or some numidian cities in Africa... it is almost impossible to keep those towns!!! If you don't keep a full stack and a very good governor inside them, they will repeteadly rebel, no matter how many public order buildings there are, what type of government, an 8 unit garrison, a good governor and repeated slaughters until the population reaches 400 (the minimal)... I know that this unrest represents cultural differences, but is there SUCH a difference, historically speaking? And, how can a town with 400 people boost repeatedly stacks of 1200 gold-chevroned units? (I counted at least three, one after another, in my Baktria campaign, they really screwed with me, since that factory of Sabaean Armies in the middle of my territories gave time to the Seleukids to regroup against me and to the Ptolemies to turn against me, and my income go severly down with huge garrissons... ¬¬)

Besides this, the mode is great in every aspect, these are just minor details!
Sorry for the huge text, or if I have mentioned things already discussed!!

PS: Can barely wait to see Hoplitai Massaliotai in EB2!!!!!!!!!!!

**MisterFred** · 06-26-2010, 06:41

Try type 4 governments and client rulers. Works wonders on cities far from your capitol. Also, destroying buildings that don't share your cultures. Trader (Semitic) is not as good as Trader if you're playing Baktria.

**vartan** · 06-26-2010, 08:09

Originally Posted by MisterFred

Try type 4 governments and client rulers. Works wonders on cities far from your capitol. Also, destroying buildings that don't share your cultures. Trader (Semitic) is not as good as Trader if you're playing Baktria.

Don't client rulers cost more upkeep than the money they bring in?

**Captain Jazzy** · 06-26-2010, 10:56

I tend to find that even client rulers who at first seem to be useless with dull/uncharasmatic ect very quickly gain massive ammounts of influence and management. Meaning I can keep hold of the steppe provinces easily and actualy make some money from them.

**Rahl** · 06-27-2010, 00:19

Depends on the city and the generals bodyguards. The celtic ones are really cheap if compared to others what makes celtic lesser kings a little bit overpowered since they will bring in their upkeep really easy. But even if you must rely on the expensive greek ones you will often make profit. Especially when the client ruler gets some good traits he will allow you to reduce the garrison significantly and maybe even raise taxes.