Quo Vardis ConDems?

[InsaneApache]

So here we are. At last the UK has a new government. When the big three kept banging on about time for a change, they wern't joking were they? For the first time since the war (got Godwin in early!) we have a coalition government. Not sure what to think of it really. Will it hold? Can it run for a full parliament? How will the two sides keep their parties happy?

One bit of great news early on is the scrapping of ID cards. That's a biggy for me.

So, what are your thoughts on the coaltion?

[Fragony]

Quo Vadis

[InsaneApache]

[Vladimir]

Quo Vadis

Looks like it's off to a bad start already.

[Hax]

One bit of great news early on is the scrapping of ID cards. That's a biggy for me.

Excellent. I don't fully trust Cameron, but I think he's better than Brown and Blair. And he can't possibly be worse than Thatcher.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Here's to hope & change.

[PanzerJaeger]

Excellent. I don't fully trust Cameron, but I think he's better than Brown and Blair. And he can't possibly be worse than Thatcher.

I've always wondered from where the visceral hatred of Thatcher comes. I'm certainly no expert on British politics, but from what I've read, it seems like she took a lot of painful, yet necessary steps to bring the British economy into competitiveness, not to mention reasserting British standing on the world stage by not backing down to the Argentineans. As I understand it, a lot of people in non-competitive industry lost their jobs; but without government subsidy, things were headed that way anyway. Considering the seemingly universal hatred aimed at her, who supported her? Oddly enough, across the pond she is quite admired as a sort of British Ronald Reagan.

[Vladimir]

I've always wondered from where the visceral hatred of Thatcher comes. I'm certainly no expert on British politics, but from what I've read, it seems like she took a lot of painful, yet necessary steps to bring the British economy into competitiveness, not to mention reasserting British standing on the world stage by not backing down to the Argentineans. As I understand it, a lot of people in non-competitive industry lost their jobs; but without government subsidy, things were headed that way anyway. Considering the seemingly universal hatred aimed at her, who supported her? Oddly enough, across the pond she is quite admired as a sort of British Ronald Reagan.

Think of how many and what types of people hate Regan. Hate isn't rational.

[CountArach]

Quo Vadis

Quo Vaditis.

[Idaho]

Scrapping ID cards is a good thing. Also interested in the move to push the tax free earning limit to £10,000. Although I think the effect of this may well be undermined by the raising of VAT (sales tax) to 20/21/22%.

[Vladimir]

Scrapping ID cards is a good thing. Also interested in the move to push the tax free earning limit to £10,000. Although I think the effect of this may well be undermined by the raising of VAT (sales tax) to 20/21/22%.

Hmm, VAT. Isn't that why it costs 12 USD for an appetizer?

[Fragony]

Quo Vaditis.

No it's not

[Rhyfelwyr]

Quo Vaditis.

Quo Vaditus.

[Gregoshi]

Oh Quo is us.

[Ronin]

Think of how many and what types of people hate Regan. Hate isn't rational.

and think of the many people who love Regan but would condemn a politician that right now did the very same things Regan did (raise taxes)......love ain´t rational either.

[Idaho]

Hmm, VAT. Isn't that why it costs 12 USD for an appetizer?

What's an appetizer? And if things are costing too much in USD - try paying in sterling to get a better price :p

[Fragony]

Quo Vaditus.

Et tu Rhyfelwyr, et tu?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_'Q...39;_in_English

[KukriKhan]

Quo Vaditis.

Heh. Where do you cry? :)

[drone]

Romanes eunt domus!

[Rhyfelwyr]

Et tu Rhyfelwyr, et tu?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_'Q...39;_in_English

T'was a joke, I don't speak a word of Italian.

[therother]

ConDems: Conservative Democrats? I suspect Cameron would prefer Liberal Conservatives, although that would have the disadvantage of shortening to LibCon, which is no doubt what the right wing of his party think of the whole affair...

[Beskar]

and think of the many people who love Regan but would condemn a politician that right now did the very same things Regan did (raise taxes)......love ain´t rational either.

If that happens, it will be the 3rd American Civil War.

PanzerJaeger's post.

Don't worry about Thatcher, she isn''t as bad as your leaders. Obama makes her look like the socialist.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Cival War.

Civil War.

[Husar]

Quo Vadis

You can complain about my corrections as much as you want, you're obviously turning into me anyway.

And I'm also very interested about this and whatever new coalition we get here in NRW, looks like we get the greens + the left/confused + the even more left.

[Vladimir]

You can complain about my corrections as much as you want, you're obviously turning into me anyway.

And I'm also very interested about this and whatever new coalition we get here in NRW, looks like we get the greens + the left/confused + the even more left.

According to someone's Aunt (I don't know whose), Germany is the model for coalition governments. I know the UK's got a problem with the continent right now but there are good lessons to be learned.

[Furunculus]

Europe has a Tory Minister
Foreign & Commonwealth has a Tory Minister
Defence has a Tory Minister

I am happy.

[InsaneApache]

ConDems: Conservative Democrats? I suspect Cameron would prefer Liberal Conservatives, although that would have the disadvantage of shortening to LibCon, which is no doubt what the right wing of his party think of the whole affair...

Gregoshi put me up to it. Honest.

[Fragony]

T'was a joke, I don't speak a word of Italian.

classy

[Louis VI the Fat]

Europe has a Tory Minister


I am happy.

Ah, I see they picked David Lidington.

That's David 'racking in the cash with excessive expenses' Lidington: 'Aylesbury MP David Lidington cost £115,891 in expenses'. (That's a single year!) Quite a big fish, it seems. David makes your average Greek MP look like an amateur.



I'm already looking forward to David castigating the EU for corruption and demanding the Brityish taxpayers are given their money back.

[Louis VI the Fat]

This week's creation of a Conservative led coalition with the Liberal Democrats has brought the period associated with Margaret Thatcher after her election in 1979 to an end. The UK will continue to play its part in global capitalism but a new kind of domestic politics is on offer. One way of describing it, uncomfortable as it may be for me to report, is that the transition from New Labour to a Tory led coalition promises a distinctly more progressive government in the UK. If indeed the Coalition agreement is carried out, then the new government will be to the left of its predecessor by being:

• tougher on the bankers
• more focused on helping the very poor
• more democratic
• ending New Labour’s assault on liberty
• Europeanising Westminster politics
• implementing greener policies
• reintroducing cabinet government

This is relative praise. It remains a Tory government. The new coalition says it is planning to stuff the House of Lords with 200 cronies to secure its majority there, who will stay for their lifetimes; it will not investigate our use of torture; it says it will ask the British people to decide on how we vote yet, despite language about “grown-up” politics, it will treat us like infants and not permit us to consider a proportional system. And, of course there is the famous chasm between words and deeds.

An end to NuLab neo-Thatcherism?