[EB] Phalanx Noob Box - And how to beat it?

[Fluvius Camillus]

Well, you really want Fluvius to respond, AFAIK he is MP champion is he not?

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@Fluvius
Kom op, ik weet dat je dit wel eens eerder gezien hebt, als je zo goed ben in MP als zij beweren.

Well here I am, Champion Fluvius, the undefeated Batavian! I must admit I'm very good at MP, but not the champion by points.

After reading most posts here I think a lot has been said. Although one thing has been left out:

Attacking his phalanx with yours from a different angle. If you attack from a corner with your sarissas, his ones will not reach you, but you can kill them. The corners are the weak points, you can soften them up with your phalanx or pump HL and AP in for a breach. If you want to get in head on, your best shot would be a big unit which will sacrifice itself to disrupt the phalanx. If you charge in with some cheap african elephants into his line, then they will probably die, but with the holes created, you can pump in your heavy infantry using the click behind tactic or exploit the gap in any other way.

However, maybe the box I picture is much different from the one you encounter. It would seem like a good idea to me that we head over to the MP battleground and you do exactly the same tactic he employs, then I will try to defeat you.

Hope that helps!

Ik ben dit nog niet tegengekomen in MP, Skullheadhq.

~Fluvius

[Fluvius Camillus]

And we are back again.

My tactic worked and the box was destroyed with very little casualties. I chose the Qarthadastim for this fight because their roster hosted all the troops I needed, of course it can be done by more factions.

The replay link is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/tnemit...Noobboxpwn.zip

The part where I am wearing out his phalanx with my own is quite tedious so it's best to triple that.

Fluvius has spoken

~Fluvius

[WinsingtonIII]

Not sure if it's been said already, but make sure to look for corners. If he's careful constructing it, there might not be any, but you should be able to find at least one, and when you do, assault that corner with armor piercing units, ideally ones that have some armor/staying power as well. If you use your own spears in guard mode to pin the rest of the box in place (the high morale of EB units and the extremely slow kill rate of phalanxes will help you here) and focus an assault on the corners with AP units, you may be able to break through. Shooting them in the back is helpful as well, but I doubt you will be able to win the battle simply with arrows/slings.

EDIT: haha Fluvius just said attack the corners two posts ago... this is what I get for not reading the whole thread. Sorry Fluvius...

[Skullheadhq]

Okay, I played three marches against him, and I won all three times, I did the attack the corners and won. After that match he changed his tactic and got a crushing defeat...twice. Thanks all!

[Centurion1]

i feel badly for yuor friend to be honest

[Titus Marcellus Scato]

My response to a 'Phalanx Noob Box' would be to set my own army up in proper historical formation, well out out of his missile range, on good terrain, and then just sit and wait. Wait him out. If he's a noob, he'll get bored waiting and attack - and he has to mess up his Noob Box formation to do that.

Otherwise nothing happens, there's no battle, and the match is a draw. All very historical, ancient armies often faced each other for days on end without fighting while each side waited for an advantage to appear.

[antisocialmunky]

That's no fun.

[Skullheadhq]

i feel badly for yuor friend to be honest

He wants revanche tonight. He'll never give up.

[Ludens]

He wants revanche tonight. He'll never give up.

Congratulations, and good luck!