[EB] Any help for beating skullhead?

**vartan** · 05-19-2010, 22:16

Originally Posted by Scattered

Long time lurker first time poster here.

The Thracian peltast it is cheap, skirmisher, high damage javelins, well armored, high stamina, nice shield and a high lethality ap falx secondary. In short the unit has no weaknesses and is effective against every unit type in the game.

You finally got an account on The Guild. Nice. Agree with everything you said. I definitely have to agree with the Thraikioi Peltastai. With as lethal a secondary as that, there's no beating it unless you have grand missile power and/or cavalry.

**Fluvius Camillus** · 05-19-2010, 22:24

Originally Posted by vartan

You finally got an account on The Guild. Nice. Agree with everything you said. I definitely have to agree with the Thraikioi Peltastai. With as lethal a secondary as that, there's no beating it unless you have grand missile power and/or cavalry.

Indeed, this is the most versatile unit in the game. In the hands of a skilled player, you can perform miracles with these great soldiers!

~Fluvius

**gamegeek2** · 05-19-2010, 22:27

Yeah, there seems to be an error - as it's a 1h rhomphaia. Whatever, Thraikioi are stupid good.

**vartan** · 05-19-2010, 23:34

Originally Posted by gamegeek2

Yeah, there seems to be an error - as it's a 1h rhomphaia. Whatever, Thraikioi are stupid good.

No error. It ain't an axe, mace, (none) << bows, slings, etc., or spear (includes javelins), so it's a sword. Falx are classified as sword there.

**mountaingoat** · 05-20-2010, 01:10

50k? that is a dream for a Getai player ...

phalanx can be simple to overcome in a battle when you get the game mechanics down .. (or depending on the player )

just put any tough unit of spearmen ( yes spearmen) against them in a thin formation on guard mode ... do not let them attack !!! .. just leave them to hold the phalanx line . (example Thorakitai Stratiotai ) ... nice to bring a unit or two to intimidate behind your main line too .

AP AP AP AP AP .. the Getai have some of the best if not the best AP units in the entire game .. in fact my general is always a Rhomphaiaphoroi and he leads a charge on a flank . also Bastarnisku are one of the best units price wise .. they can decimate pretty much any elite unite for half the price .

two units of heavy HA and the rest can be prodromoi with 1 upgrade ,

rush ...oh yeah and bring slingers with you to ward off the harassing cav...

if your opponent goes all horse archers .. just quit the game right away or run for the trees .. lol

edit - any remaining money ... be sure to add un upgrade to each unit

**Danos13** · 05-20-2010, 11:27

Originally Posted by mountaingoat

50k? that is a dream for a Getai player ...

phalanx can be simple to overcome in a battle when you get the game mechanics down .. (or depending on the player )

just put any tough unit of spearmen ( yes spearmen) against them in a thin formation on guard mode ... do not let them attack !!! .. just leave them to hold the phalanx line . (example Thorakitai Stratiotai ) ... nice to bring a unit or two to intimidate behind your main line too .

AP AP AP AP AP .. the Getai have some of the best if not the best AP units in the entire game .. in fact my general is always a Rhomphaiaphoroi and he leads a charge on a flank . also Bastarnisku are one of the best units price wise .. they can decimate pretty much any elite unite for half the price .

two units of heavy HA and the rest can be prodromoi with 1 upgrade ,

rush ...oh yeah and bring slingers with you to ward off the harassing cav...

if your opponent goes all horse archers .. just quit the game right away or run for the trees .. lol

edit - any remaining money ... be sure to add un upgrade to each unit

Never considered just spearmen could beat elite phalanx, i might try it sometime

**Jebivjetar** · 05-20-2010, 11:38

Originally Posted by Danos13

Never considered just spearmen could beat elite phalanx, i might try it sometime

Well they wont beat Macedonian phalanx, especially not from the front- but are able to hold those sarrisaephoroi in place for a very long time (e.g. in my both campaign and MP games i often deploy Liby-pheonican heavy infantry (spearmen) just to hold a phalanx in place. Any well armoured spearmen will be able to pin the phalanx in place. Just put them on guard mode and shall be good.

**seienchin** · 05-20-2010, 14:41

Because Skullhead also uses cataphraktoi the getai will be slaughtered!! also in MP your thin line of spearmen should be useless against a skilled player. Who tells you that he will atack them with his phalangitai front?
If I were skullhead I would put all my phalanxes out of guard mode and phalanx mode. Atack with them on the sides, lowering the spears against the AP units and destroy the thin line of the getai spearmen with just one cataphract charge. Than the getai forces are split into two and the fight is over.
If my current PC hadnt a proxy preventing me from playing EB online, I would love to beat the Getai with a diadochi force.

If they use the flanking tactic, just reverse it. If they are going all in just make a circle with your heavy infantry, shoot their horse archers and AP units etc.
In my opinion getai armies not going for extreme skirmishing and surprise atacks are doomed against any greek force.
Of course an army of upgraded skirmishers will pretty much anoy your oponent to death. ^^
Because the getai komatai are faster than phalangists you can always run away and shoot the enemy. If they counteratack with cavallery or fast units just pile your skirmishers up on them. The only problem should be an archer shoutout.

PS: Am I the only one preferring light troops with a lot of upgrades over elites?