EB Online Tourney: July 2010 - Special Anniversary Edition

[vartan]

You aren't sure yet, so I'll help you get there. It ain't too far anyway. So here's the deal: When anybody tells you one-chev, it means 1 bronze, period. No upgrades means no attack upgrades no defence upgrades. You don't get access to magical blacksmiths, sorry. When does the July tournament start? Let me check my calendar. It starts...July 1st, and ends on...July 31st. And that's pretty much your 1st and 31st, as I know we can be straddling two days on this planet. Good luck with Saba by the way. At least you don't have army composition limits. Mercy rule. Good thing munky didn't call it the pity rule. That would be flat out unethical.

EDIT: We really need your help guys. Someone knowledgeable in the respective faction should reply with a list of the factional units for Pahlava and/or Sauromatae as per the EB website and place -H markers next to the cavalry units that should be considered heavy, whether for historical reasons or simply because they have heavy in their names. This would be much appreciated and is direly needed before the month starts. Note: Do not place -H beside those units that are specifically named "horse archer" because these are automatically considered medium cavalry (and consequently are excluded form the heavy cavalry limitation rule).

[Ghaust the Moor]

Ahh. I have decided that I would like to revoke my placement as Saba. I have decided that since this will be my first Tourney or competitive play of anykind, I should start off by playing something I'm more familiar with. So if its not too late, as the Tourney hasn't started, I would like to play as Lusotanna. Now If I am playing as Lusotanna, am I required to play a Civilized army list or can I play a Steppe army list or is that a requirment...again I am not sure. I want to run a Cantabrian army and thus mostly skirmisher cavalry and a few supporting infantry. Thanks anyway if you can't change it, I understand I jsut wasn't sure if it was too late or not.

[vartan]

July hasn't arrived yet so I don't see why you can't change.

Steppe Rules can only be used by Steppe Factions and those who (mostly) border Steppe Factions, these factions can use those rules:
-Pahlava
-Saka
-Sauromatae
-Hayasdan
-Getai
-Baktria

From the original thread one year ago. Those were the nations that were determined to be allowed the "steppe rule" composition. If Lusos--peoples I don't have much knowledge about--did use steppe armies in the past, I don't see why they shouldn't be a part of the steppe-able factions, if you will.

P.S. Looks like we're going to need not only a Pahlava and Sauro list, but now also a Luso list. Someone join as Epeiros and make our lives that much more enjoyable, haha. Hope someone has a certainty on which cav from these nations are heavy because I haven't the time/energy for this determination.

[Ghaust the Moor]

Well I don't think it would be the Lusos, specificcally that had a steppe type army. I think it would really only be something regional like the Cantabrians. But you would like a factional list for Lusotanna?

[vartan]

Well I don't think it would be the Lusos, specificcally that had a steppe type army. I think it would really only be something regional like the Cantabrians. But you would like a factional list for Lusotanna?

If you've noticed the Special Community Call for Help it asks for volunteers from the community who are able to identify the heavy cavalry units in the factional unit lists for the four unlisted factions Epeiros Lusotannan Pahlava and Sauromatae. Some units may be called Heavy Cavalry in their titles, and those are clearly Heavy. If it is a Horse Archer it is automatically medium (unless someone wishes to object to this; it's been standard so far). So if it ain't called heavy cav and it ain't a horse archer but it is in the faction's list of units on the EB website please tell me why it's heavy cav (maybe it's in the description or something else) and I can myself make the list with the -H markers. It becomes a reference for those making their armies.

[antisocialmunky]

Epeiros is hard to play. Their cav despite being some of the best in the game die like flies to arrows and their armies are generally slightly more expensive than Macs. :(

Takes lots of skills.

Also Saba > KH lol. PAIN...

[Apázlinemjó]

Epeiros is hard to play. Their cav despite being some of the best in the game die like flies to arrows and their armies are generally slightly more expensive than Macs. :(

Takes lots of skills.

Also Saba > KH lol. PAIN...

Yet you still go with KH, I thought you would choose Baktria for the tournament.

Edit: Gonna make the factionals' list for Epeiros and Lusos today.

[WinsingtonIII]

Note: Do not place -H beside those units that are specifically named "horse archer" because these are automatically considered medium cavalry (and consequently are excluded form the heavy cavalry limitation rule).

We're counting all horse-archers as medium cavalry? Including the ridiculous super-heavy Sauromatae tank bodyguards and Cataphract Archers? Or are you only talking about those units that actually have the words "horse archer" in their name?

[vartan]

We're counting all horse-archers as medium cavalry? Including the ridiculous super-heavy Sauromatae tank bodyguards and Cataphract Archers? Or are you only talking about those units that actually have the words "horse archer" in their name?

Have you checked the website's factional unit lists at all? Look at the horse archers that are denoted as heavy, including my very own armoured ones. If you or anyone spots any that I've missed please let me know--we don't want heavy HA walking around in numbers greater than they should be!

[MisterFred]

I'd like to sign up to play with the awe-inspiring Saba.

Since they're not available, I'll just use the regular Saba instead. And this has nothing, honest, nothing to do with my protest at having to announce the use of elephants before battle. (Too big a penalty to warn the enemy to pick up 3 gund-i-palta and hard-counter the one unit that's one-third of your army's cost. IMO people just need to be aware they need to devote a full third of their army to stopping your elephants and not just pick up easy counters after a warning.)

[Jack Dionne]

A couple of questions. Is the Hamachi network for practicing purged daily?

I picked Baktria so does that mean I have to pick that faction for the whole tournament?

[vartan]

I'd like to sign up to play with the awe-inspiring Saba.

Since they're not available, I'll just use the regular Saba instead. And this has nothing, honest, nothing to do with my protest at having to announce the use of elephants before battle. (Too big a penalty to warn the enemy to pick up 3 gund-i-palta and hard-counter the one unit that's one-third of your army's cost. IMO people just need to be aware they need to devote a full third of their army to stopping your elephants and not just pick up easy counters after a warning.)

I'm awaiting a response from munky for an explication of a possible budget-booster for ele users.

A couple of questions. Is the Hamachi network for practicing purged daily?

I picked Baktria so does that mean I have to pick that faction for the whole tournament?

Quoting the EB Online site:

The EB Online admin reserves the right to purge the networks of all offline members at anytime, unannounced.

This is why there are many purges some days, and none other days. Ideally I could have a bot automatically kick members the second they go offline (actually, even more ideally, y'all would leave the network before shutting off Hamachi).

By pick a faction I mean pick one for the month's tournament. You can practice with whatever faction you desire, but pick one that you'll use for all your tourney battles for a certain month (in this case, July 2010). If you choose to sign up for another tournament, say August 2010 (when the time comes), then you can choose another faction, or the same one if you so desire.

[mountaingoat]

I'd like to sign up to play with the awe-inspiring Saba.

Since they're not available, I'll just use the regular Saba instead. And this has nothing, honest, nothing to do with my protest at having to announce the use of elephants before battle. (Too big a penalty to warn the enemy to pick up 3 gund-i-palta and hard-counter the one unit that's one-third of your army's cost. IMO people just need to be aware they need to devote a full third of their army to stopping your elephants and not just pick up easy counters after a warning.)

it is not often that difficult to "predict" if an opponent is bringing elephants to the field .. all you have to do is look at how much mnai they spent and how many soldiers they are bringing to the field , which can be viewed by all before the battle begins.

example

MisterFred total troops 500 mnai spent 28000

so i would be thinking .. ok .. he spent all of his money and only brought 500 troops ... AND he has an an elephant faction .. high chance of elephants .. ( adjust army accordingly ) .


edit: yes there are ways you can attempt to mask this

[Tex]

Can i Change faction?
I want to be Backtria

Thanks

[antisocialmunky]

What happens if I make an all infantry army against steppe and I kill all their infantry?

All he has is Kataphracts and I'm in a giant box formation to not die. I can't catch him but he can't kill me or surround me. Can we force a draw in that situation or make points awarded by jury since in that case I would win by our current rules(he can't surround me and if I did, I would attack him)?

Another thought was some sort of point system for the game: +1 for killing a general and +1 for winning the battle instead of strict win/loss.