Yes. Understand that what you are experiencing is the infamous phalanx bug, wherein you have a phalanx (usually guard off, sometimes with guard on) whose one half is attacking, and whose rear half is lagging. Or any variation of this breakage. Alexander update of the engine (1.5 to 1.9) did a lot to rectify this. Keeping guard on whilst attacking also does the trick for the most part.
And quite unfairly so indeed.
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check out my post where I tweaked some of the unit values:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...tc-suggestions
For sarissa phalangites, I reduced the shield value by two (from 5 to 3) and added 1 defense point value.
Why add the defence point value? I mean, they're meant to be vulnerable to attack. They're pikemen.
Armour Values Problems:
While playing EB, I've found what appear to my untrained eyes to be serious discrepancies with the armour values of most 'heavy' units on the battlefield.
Firstly, let us examine the Hoplati. These men wear a linenthorax, bronze greaves and a Corinthian helm. Solid, reasonable armour that stands at '11' armour value.
However, if we examine a Cohors Reformata (Post-MarianLegionary Cohort), we see something truly wrong with the armour value. Clad in a shirt of heavy chainmail and a bronze helmet, and he only has an armour value of 10!?
This becomes even more strange when examining or Polybian Triarii, who wear a bronze helm, heavy chain armour and a single bronze greave, and yet for some reason only have a mere armour value of '10', compared to the Hoplite's 11, despite the fact that the Hoplite's linen armour is vastly inferior to the chain armour of the Triarii!
Even comparing the Cohors Reformata with the Triarii, we see that the Cohors, despite lacking the single bronze greave of the Triarii, has the same armour value as the more heavily-armoured Triarii.
This becomes even more strange when we compare the Babylonian Heavy Spearmen, armoured in iron scale mail curiasses and bronze helmets. 9 armour. 9 armour for a heavy scale cuirass and a bronze helmet? A levy phalangite has 8, for a bronze helm and a linen cuirass?
It almost seems like the more armour a unit wears on the model, the less protection it offers!
Last edited by Rolling Thunder; 07-12-2010 at 17:19.
Bump, could someone answer my questions?
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And thus realism (and thus historical accuracy) was not so much discarded as it was kicked down a giant well by the king of Sparta.
I must politely disagree with the EB team. The linenthorax is excellent armour - equal or superior to the bronze muscle cuirass that is replaced - but it is neither as covering nor as effective as chainmail. Unless it is literally immune to sword slashes as chainmail is, highly resistant to thrusts and blunt trauma as well, then it is, put simply, not as good as chainmail. Leather armour isn't even as effective as padded armour (unless reinforced with plates).
Last edited by Rolling Thunder; 07-12-2010 at 21:02.
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