About a cheap ways to win in Eb online battles

[Jebivjetar]

1. The 15-20 infantry cohorts quadrangular box

Since there is no max infantry limit with Civilized factions then a player can just buy a 15-20 infantry cohorts and position them all in a huge quadrangular box, and then just go away to cook a meal or clean the apartment, so when the player comes back then he has won regardless of that what the opponent had done with his units or the time spent in thinking out some strategy as a countermeasure. This applies especially if the opponent is using some western infantry factions.

It reminds me: in one of the battle replies there is one fight between Carthage and polybian SPQR: 12 units of principes, 4-5 units of triari plus some cavalry against an Carthaginian army composed of spearmen, light infantry, archers, slingers and only a few heavy inf. units. It's true that Carthage cannot field an decent army to oppose such a mass heavy inf. spam under the rules we have (i don't know about the other factions, i play Carthage). I'm not complaining really, it's just that i won't take a battle against any post-camilian SPQR army on this tourney.

[Apázlinemjó]

I find the guard mode Romani the easiest opponent:
- Easy to outmaneuver
- Easy to surround
- You can dictate the speed of the battle
- Romani players tend to be impatient (no offense), so sooner or later they will attack you
- If they bring too many cohorts, they won't have good cavalry
- If they bring too many cohorts, they won't have good archers
- They are extremely vulnerable to well placed AP units on the flanks
- Morale penalties (If you have nudists)/cavalry charge from the rear + exposed flanks will call for a fast rout
- Factions which have phalanxes can easily force the Romani players to leave their guard modes (Just poke the front line, protect your flanks, the opponent has to attack if he doesn't want a slow defeat)

Edit:
http://www.filefront.com/16999033/1v...ainstSlick.rpy - Romani player was forced to attack me.

[Burebista]

You don't have to worry about slick only , you got an entire cohort of players , mostly roman. I just love when they complain about steppe tacs:))

[vartan]

First, @Fred, please. Not in public. Not in public, please. Please. << I'm starting to beg, but I mean it.

And Geticus, you just repeated yourself. Guard mode and historicity. Listen, it's great how the hoplites fought in history. That's perfect, fine, and wonderful. The discussion isn't about how they fought, though. It's about the in-game switch known to us as "Guard Mode". Guard Mode has nothing to do with history, and everything to do with the video game. It isn't a historical concept, but a video-game concept, particular (or peculiar, shall we say) to the TW series of games. It is nothing more or less than what I mentioned regarding the chasing (or lack thereof) of routing enemy units. That's it. Nothing more to it. But its exploitation is what concerns people, definitely including the author of this thread as well as myself; I won't lie.

[seienchin]

The only problem with guard mode is EB.
Guard mode lets your units tire more slowy, sometimes hoplites do not seem to tire at all by fighting. In Rome Vanilla this wasnt a problem, because most fights resolved in like 1 afte contact, because one side fled. In EB units have extreme high moral and defense values, so fights take much longer, so guard mode starts to make a difference.

[antisocialmunky]

If you do have to assault a guard mode line. The best method is to charge and pull back on one unit repeatedly with some heavy assault troops.

I don't know about Rome though. You can usually take htem out in a cavalry engagement. However if you can't... yeah Imperial Rome is lame.

[Jebivjetar]

I don't know about Rome though. You can usually take htem out in a cavalry engagement. However if you can't... yeah Imperial Rome is lame.

True. Once i had a battle against polybian SPQR and i decided to make an experiment. So i charged the line composed of principes with a unit of Liby-phoenican cav. and one unt of my mighty Sacred Band Cavalry: allthough i was outnumbered in infantry my cavalry did some serious damage to the enemy and i actually won at the end. Anyway, my opponent had not only principes but hastati also (i thank him for being fair enough not to spam principes, triari and extraordinari).