Quote Originally Posted by Burebista View Post
What about roman boxes? they have no flanks and cata charges usually cost u more mnai than them. Not to add that few factions have the luxury of fielding 1 elite ranged units compared to the roman 3 ( balearic , cretan , saggitarius) and win the ranged duel.

All i am saying is that roman cohorts should cost more. It doesnt make sanse that most elites cost more than roman regulars and do less . As far as i remember romans were a disciplined highly trained , heavy armed army . That must cost more than a bunch of naked gauls with shields and swords (Milnaht for ex)
I agree Roman cohorts are underpriced, but so are Thrakian peltasts, bosphoran archers, Sarmatian nobles, Aorsi riders, Cretan mercenary archers, and Rhaetian axemen to name a few. I might also argue that phalanxes are broken because of their insane missile immunity. But its all about abusing advantages. The key to it is not straightforward slugfest but rather tactical micromanagement on the flanks. Against Romans I think there are various ways to beat a cohort box. Shoot down their cavalry and sagitarii with armored horse archers, then charge the right flank and exposed cohorts on the corners with lancers to break up the box.

I also remember Neospartan played in the tourney as Aedui (one of my factions incidentally) last year and was destroying infantry lines real fast with Brihentin/gaesatae/druids/axemen/swordsmen swarming the flank. I recall a game where Neospartan fought a guy that played Koinon Hellenon, mostly Thorakitai in a box in guard mode with Cretan archers at the center, like 16 heavy infantry, he just sat there and waited for you to come to him just letting the Cretans draw you in. Neospartan swarmed one flank with extreme pressure and brihentin charges and the whole box chainrouted in like 2 minutes. The KH player was so upset that he quit the tournament. But the same strat would probably work against the Romans, its just a bit harder I think, but the same principle applies, that armies that just sit still will win if you fight on their own terms but lose if you break them up piecemeal.