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    So, I was talking to the doorman(is that the correct term? it's the guy who stands at the entrance and tells the drunks to piss off...) of the local pub today, you know, small talk about what happened this weekend. He had an interesting story, apparently some woman was punched by her husband at the pub this saturday, not just once, but repeatedly until the the guards intervened. You know, standard wife-beating. The guards got him under control and kept him until the cops came and arrested him. The police took statements from the witnesses and all the usual stuff, and the woman was comforted by a female friend. They were talking, and these words were overheard:

    But he's usually such a good man!!

    I'm starting to believe that some women deserve every punch they get. When your husband has beaten you 150 times, he is going to do it 151 times too. Such men are scum, best left to rot alone. The women who are incapable of understanding that is beyond my pity.




    And no Husar and Vladimir; I have no sources for this story either, this is all real-life experience. If you can't handle that then please go away, since I still want to hear the comments from the rest of the community.
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    Women in this situation generally have mental illness of some description. Even I'd be more open minded on this.

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    Some women deserve to be beaten, just as some men deserve to be beaten, or are we going to discriminate now?
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    I blame Hollywood.

    Yes, it is surely all their fault for a hundred years of brainwashing women into the ideals of the perfect romance and the perfect man. The ideal man who is intelligent, witty, handsome, deep, mysterious and charming. Hollywood has made women naive to the realities of romance and men. It has programmed them in ways that run against their native intuition. A woman in such a situation has held her man to these false ideals, and not simply compared him to these ideals, but rather, has replaced her image of him with this idealism. She no longer sees a man, she sees a prince, a demi-god, a man of no flaws. She has had her perceptions muddled with until she no longer has any awareness of what in her man is real and what is fantasy.

    She begins to blame herself, for surely her "Hollywood Prince" can do no wrong. She questions herself, she asks the internal questions: "He's not normally like that! What did I do wrong? What did I do to make him so angry?" She sees herself as the perpetrator, and she falls victim to her own misjudged intellections. She takes that great womanly power to emotionalise a situation, and comes to the unenviable situation of searching for a cause for the effect from a biased stand-point. Her judgement is clouded by affection, and perceptions of the perfect man. So what does she do, she finds that the blame must fall on her own shoulders. Oh, the tragedy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    Some women deserve to be beaten, just as some men deserve to be beaten, or are we going to discriminate now?
    I wasn't entirely serious when I said that; I don't believe that anyone deserve to be or should be beaten...
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    women did have tendency to still save some room for love, even for a husband that often mistreat her, looking for your story, it was most likely she was unemployed woman who depends on her husband to provide sole monetary support, and most likely, her husband isolate her from most social contact, so that could be this way, "she perceived that her husband is her only 'friend' because she only have significant social contact with him"

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    When I saw the thread topic, I thought it was about Mel Gibson.


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    A lot of it goes back to childhood experience. If a boy sees his dad beat his mom, it seems like the normal thing to do. If a girl sees her dad beat her mom, it seems like the normal thing to have happen. If the girl is beat or otherwise abused by a male family member, this becomes normal at a subconscious level to them in adult life. They may seek out these types of relationships, as a kind, loving relationship seems weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    I blame Hollywood.
    Those kind of stories predate hollywood by quite a lot though. I think it's just a natural human tendency to stick with the one you love too long.

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    Coming back with a bang I see.


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    I've got to disagree with the comment that no one deserves to be hit, some people do.

    I am all for equality and if a woman starts beating on a man they he has the right to hit her back, would I do it? Doubt it, but you never know.

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    Violence is the failure of communication.

    If you are unable to communication, then it is better just to leave eachother alone. If it is a situation where you can't really do that, then you get a independent third party to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Violence is the failure of communication.
    I agree. If I communicate to you that I want your wallet and you strongly disagree, the resulting breakdown in communication results in me punching you in the face.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    I agree. If I communicate to you that I want your wallet and you strongly disagree, the resulting breakdown in communication results in me punching you in the face.
    Correct. You just proved my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Correct. You just proved my point.
    A physically and financially painful way to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregoshi View Post
    A physically and financially painful way to do so.
    He would probably need ladders to hit my face first, so I am not too worried.

    But it is exactly right, violence is the breakdown of communication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    ...violence is the breakdown of communication.
    Violence can be a form of communication - although an undesireable form of such. And while you might be able to say in most cases it is a result of a communications breakdown, you may not have caused the breakdown, but could be the target of the violence.
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    The abuse can be mental as well as physical. The husband could hit her where she won't bruise too much and he'll tell her people won't believe her. Or he could cut her off from contact with other people so she has nobody to turn to. Or break her down mentally until she thinks she's worthless and won't be able to cope without him. Or if they have kids she might try to stick with him in the hopes of saving her family.

    I think these are more likely causes of why women put up with wife-beating, as opposed to clinging onto her concept of the dream man.
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    Best laugh I ever got: Driving past a giant evergreen in the town square covered with little white bells. "That's for wife abuse awareness," my mother-in-law told me from the backseat. "Each bell represents a woman who was beaten in this county."

    "Wow," I said, "that's a lot of women who won't freakin' listen."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Best laugh I ever got: Driving past a giant evergreen in the town square covered with little white bells. "That's for wife abuse awareness," my mother-in-law told me from the backseat. "Each bell represents a woman who was beaten in this county."

    "Wow," I said, "that's a lot of women who won't freakin' listen."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Looks like you are not her favourite son-in-law.
    Well, I dunno if it was timing or intonation, but she actually laughed, as did everyone else in the car. Like I said, it was one of the best laughs I ever got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    When I saw the thread topic, I thought it was about Mel Gibson.
    When I saw the thread topic, I thought it was about Sean Connery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    When I saw the thread topic, I thought it was about Mel Gibson.
    I am so increadibly glad that someone took the time to take Mel's latest rants and pair them up with adorable kittens (language warning).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    I am so increadibly glad that someone took the time to take Mel's latest rants and pair them up with adorable kittens (language warning).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Any man I ever known who hit a woman was nothing but a bully and not really a man at all
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    Not really sure where this fits, but I'm raising Jillian and Allison to go for the 'nads if they get hit. Any 'dude' that would hit a lady ain't got anything to worry about getting hit anyways.
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    **** it! Lemur's Connery video didn't show for me until after I posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    Not really sure where this fits, but I'm raising Jillian and Allison to go for the 'nads if they get hit. Any 'dude' that would hit a lady ain't got anything to worry about getting hit anyways.
    Heel-strike to the instep is even better. Make the ****** limp. This then sets up the shot at the unmentionables.
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