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    And do not forget: in settlements like Tylis, Kallatis, Singidunim, Naissos, (sp?) you can train some really cool units if you build lvl4 gov (Thracian elite infantry and peltasts, Boi swordsmen, Scordisci elite infantry, Triballi infantry, Galatian heavy spearmen) !
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    @ Klibanarophoros

    Here is my initial stack:



    It's cheap, sturdy and extremely versatile.

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    Ive progressed till Antioch in mine. VH/M.

    I use Classical Hoplites instead of Pikes , thureophoroi, no samnites since the victory conditions tell you to go east not west, Agrianians instead of Thorakitai since they have higher lethality, better morale and AP bonus which is really useful against the romaioi barbaroi, grey death or yellow fever. Thraikians are excellent if you can develop that area fast enough for the blitz to the east but I forgot to build anything there lol. Generally, Elephants are too expensive since you have to defend both Italy and greece which requires a seperate reserve force for Italy. Overall, very veratile very fun to play.


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    I don't know.....elephants seemed like cheating when I rampaged through Italy. I prefer to crush my enemies 'fair and square'.

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    Epeiros has the coolest-looking thureophoroi in all of EB, btw. I tend to avoid phalangitai, too, but I do enjoy using a few hoplites to hold the center as an anvil while I have thureophoroi and similar troops performing crazy battlefield maneuvers on the flanks. If you don't plan on using phalangitai as your backbone line troops, you might as well use thureophoroi to their best advantage as flexible, fast-moving spearmen. It's the total opposite of having a line of phalangitai standing immobile against the enemy.

    Basileus ton Basileon gave a great screenie of a nice Epeirote army without Alexandrian phalanxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah View Post
    Epeiros has the coolest-looking thureophoroi in all of EB, btw. I tend to avoid phalangitai, too, but I do enjoy using a few hoplites to hold the center as an anvil while I have thureophoroi and similar troops performing crazy battlefield maneuvers on the flanks. If you don't plan on using phalangitai as your backbone line troops, you might as well use thureophoroi to their best advantage as flexible, fast-moving spearmen. It's the total opposite of having a line of phalangitai standing immobile against the enemy.

    Basileus ton Basileon gave a great screenie of a nice Epeirote army without Alexandrian phalanxes.
    I'd add some Illyrioi Thureophoroi into an army like that. They are like a more flexible, less armored version of the Hellenic ones.
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    A tad too light IMHO...They'll do good as reserve/flankers though...I'll have a go at them and see....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basileus_ton_Basileon View Post
    @ Klibanarophoros

    Here is my initial stack:



    It's cheap, sturdy and extremely versatile.
    Hmmm, I liky! That's the way I wanna fight with Epeirots!
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    Generally Ive found thureos to be better than thorakitai, since they are much cheaper and faster and have only minor difference in stats, not to mention availaible as mercs and all over the world


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    Thorakitai are -that- little bit more durable in guard mode though, best to have a few standing in the middle of the line. They can still charge and move around in a counter attack/rout chase, but they aren't as agile as the Thuerophoroi of course. Just place peltasts (once they depleted their javalins) and elites behind them as reserves and you'll be fine.

    Yes, for the flanks, use Thuerophoroi. They are wonderful hellenic grunt troops.

    I'm actually somewhat annoyed by the zerg-like nature of the Romans, is their AI tweaked to zerg or something?

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    Getai. Nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basileus_ton_Basileon View Post
    @ Klibanarophoros

    Here is my initial stack:



    It's cheap, sturdy and extremely versatile.
    BTW, it's 251 BC, go north! Dalminion and Segestica, mines, money, and yes, getai. but it's worth it! Also, i may be a rusher, but this is too slow, Hellas is not yet yours?
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    251 BC? tsss, you should be in Bactria by now... XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jebivjetar View Post
    And do not forget: in settlements like Tylis, Kallatis, Singidunim, Naissos, (sp?) you can train some really cool units if you build lvl4 gov (Thracian elite infantry and peltasts, Boi swordsmen, Scordisci elite infantry, Triballi infantry, Galatian heavy spearmen) !
    Ah yes, trhracian elite infantry, god damn meat grinders if used properly, and those Scordisci tanks are tough as hell (pretty rarely seen outside rebel settlements, fortunately). Simply made to hack heavy infantry to pieces. Btw, i don't think that Epeiros can train galatian heavy spearmen, but you have plenty of line infantry to go around with. Hoplites usually do the job just fine, flanked by thureophoroi or someone else... As seen on screenshot above.
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