How often do you guys use cheats?

**QuintusSertorius** · 09-22-2010, 12:51

I cheat all the time, usually to make the game more interesting, rather than my own benefit. I play for my own entertainment, not "challenge", and I play nice and slow (none of this "beat the game in 100 turns" nonsense). Since I like playing one faction as though it were another of my choice (Epeiros as Pergamon), I have to cheat at the start to set myself up with one province and get rid of the old holdings of the previous faction. That involves teleporting armies and judicious use of an auto_win, as well as create_unit to make my new starting army.

After that I often use create_unit to make proper stacks of attacking enemies and add_money to boost AI factions who are lagging.

**Brennus** · 09-22-2010, 20:13

I often use toggle_fow to see how everyone is doing on the map and add_money to keep the Seleucids in play for longer (unless I am the Seleucids or opposing them) I just think its innacurate to have a Ptolemaic empire stretching to Armenia or a Bactrian empire which reaches Anatolia.

I will confess to having used the move characted cheat the other week. I was playing as Carthage and the Ptolemies attacked me I will admit I couldn't have beaten the army they sent against me but my motivation instead was to preserve historical accuracy. As far as I am aware Carthage and Ptolemaic Egypt never fought each other. It also made little sense to me to be at war with Egypt as at the time they were struggling to keep the Seleucids out of the Nile Valley, the only reason they attacked was the games AI kicking in once my empire had passed a certain size and level of power.

**vartan** · 09-22-2010, 23:56

Originally Posted by Brennus

It also made little sense to me to be at war with Egypt as at the time they were struggling to keep the Seleucids out of the Nile Valley, the only reason they attacked was the games AI kicking in once my empire had passed a certain size and level of power.

Are you sure it wasn't over Kyrene? Because that's part of the little Egypt-Carthage script pop-up event in EB.

**QuintusSertorius** · 09-23-2010, 13:18

I seem to get an error on the console whenever I try to use auto_win (which I was doing to save time). Strange.

**Brennus** · 09-23-2010, 14:01

Originally Posted by vartan

Are you sure it wasn't over Kyrene? Because that's part of the little Egypt-Carthage script pop-up event in EB.

I was nowhere near Kyrene, I didn't go anymore east than Syrthim.

**SaigonSaddler** · 09-24-2010, 13:20

Never cheat. I am tied to the faction through thick and thin. Anyway, a glorious victory and acquisition of new provinces actual mean something.

**ChingizLink** · 09-26-2010, 08:03

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

so I can get the new bodyguard without manually changing the EDU... most often, I do this on the very last Romaioi city before I march and enslave them...

also so that, if you're playing as an eastern faction, you face the other Eastern factions with their best BGs, and the Hellenistic factions with the phalangists they seem to prefer and use more. (they never seem to use Pezhetairoi, but also use frickin' pantodapoi...grrrr....)

**Madoushi** · 10-04-2010, 21:40

Originally Posted by Randal

I use the auto_win cheat if there is a crash to the disk after I win a tactical battle. I don't want to play it all over again, so I'll use the cheat as I won it already anyway.

I occasionally toggle the FoW to see how the factions are doing.

I had a game in my Roman Campaign where the Carthagininians has three FMs in a stack on Sardinia, and every time I would defeat it, my game would crash no matter how long I waited after the battle results. Not only that, but it would also corrupt my most recent save so it would crash on loading. Maybe I should try doing that.

IRT Topic: I abuse the hell out of the pause feature in combat, I use toggle_fow once I've scouted the whole map, just to save myself the hassle of having to move dozens of agents every turn to have up-to-date map info, and when I ply as any of the Steppe factions, I use the add_money cheat if I've gone too deep in debt to defend my empire once I've finally started to get positive cashflow.

As the Sauros I positively have to add-money if the Sakas or Hai start attacking me, otherwise they just destroy me and there's nothing I can do about it. :(

**rotten** · 10-08-2010, 10:53

Sack cities. Maybe you can nail Ekbatana (sp?) with a Forager if you're lucky, that's about 27k mnai without destroying the wonder (44 if you do). But you need foot archers for that, so you'll take that much longer to cross through Armenia.