I give up.

[Hooahguy]

You bought her ticket?

...

... Where the hell do you live? The conservative bible belt?

Buying her ticket is a bit much, considering you arent even dating. But at least that was chivalrous. Maybe they dont have chivalry in Canada?

[Hax]

Maybe they dont have chivalry in Canada?

Not in that part. Québec is the bastion of chivalry in North America.

[Prussian to the Iron]

You bought her ticket?

...

... Where the hell do you live? The conservative bible belt?

Buying her ticket is a bit much, considering you arent even dating. But at least that was chivalrous. Maybe they dont have chivalry in Canada?

dont sound much like it here, but i'm really very gentlemanly most of the time, really classy actually. maybe thats my problem? I need to treat girls like the ground i walk on like most other people do?

jk bout that last part.

[Hooahguy]

maybe thats my problem? I need to treat girls like the ground i walk on like most other people do?

EDIT: NO, disregard what I said, I misread what you!

[Prussian to the Iron]

Yes.

wish i could. maybe i could learn

[Tuuvi]

Eh I don't think you should change the way you act around girls unless you have really bad manners or something. Just be yourself and eventually someone will come to you, and when she does you'll know she's something special and won't be some selfish popularity hungry barbie doll.

I know how you feel, when I was in high school/middle school I never had a girlfriend and whenever it seemed like I finally would the girl would suddenly change her mind about me or something. Now looking back I'm glad I never had a girlfriend because nobody was mature enough and it would've been a bunch of stupid drama anyway.

[naut]

dont sound much like it here, but i'm really very gentlemanly most of the time, really classy actually. maybe thats my problem? I need to treat girls like the ground i walk on like most other people do?

Yes.

Oh, not more "nice guy"s.

"You don't have to be an ego-inflated, arrogant jerk. You just have to LIKE yourself. You have to know what you want out of life, and go after it."

You aren't ready. You don't do something nice or gentlemanly because you'll get something in return. That is no longer being nice or gentlemanly, that is emotional manipulation with an underlying motive. You do it because it is the nice thing to do.

I may be coming off as a hard-nosed , but that's what you really need. You don't need your ego stroked and a reassuring arm round the shoulder. You need some cold-hard perspective. So do as the Texan said earlier, do the more important things in your life first. Set some goals, set some things you want to achieve. And go after them. As a result you'll gain confidence, self-esteem and you'll find yourself swimming in ladies who are interested in you because you are interesting and driven.

[Hooahguy]

Whoa! I DID NOT mean to say that you should treat her like dirt! Is that what I came across as saying? I really need to read more carefully your posts before I reply. oops

[Cute Wolf]

virgin power!

now, just relax, be grateful, and pray that you'll never doing "that sin" before you got married and be proud, real men in earlier part of this century (and ancient ages) also doing that... including someone today who lived on the backside of the earth...

[Skullheadhq]

now, just relax, be grateful, and pray that you'll never doing "that sin" before you got married and be proud, real men in earlier part of this century (and ancient ages) also doing that... including someone today who lived on the backside of the earth...

A wise man

[Samurai Waki]

... hmmm, lots of self pity going on these days 'round here.

Look PI, fact of the matter is you're fifteen, and I'm not saying that to talk down to you. I'm saying it, because being a teenager sucks. It's that simple. Your chemical composition is completely askew, chances are you look the worst you will ever look in your entire life, and to top that off girls are starting to look REALLY, REALLY good right about now. Trouble with that is, you've also got the rest of your life to consider. Hooking up with girls, getting laid... that all sounds pretty awesome, except for the fact that girls around your age are also going through something similar to what you are going through. Except they become self-righteous, bipolar-masochists... and they don't get out of that mode until you are well into your early twenties, or actually, sometimes never (come to think of it). So, relax dude; take each day as it comes, focus on school, play TW at nights and on the weekends, be mischievous ... and for the love of god, don't be so serious... there's a certain comedic factor when it comes to courtship.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Why?

She isn't yours for the night, you bought her ticket, not the ticket to owning her for the night.

You expected something different than she did, you aren't ready, and neither are other girls your age.

again, I didn't say that I expected her to be with me 100% of the time, but she literally spent 0 time with me. if she didn't intend on even speaking to me except to tell me that she didnt want to dance, she shouldn't have ever accepted in the first place.

Oh, not more "nice guy"s.

"You don't have to be an ego-inflated, arrogant jerk. You just have to LIKE yourself. You have to know what you want out of life, and go after it."

You aren't ready. You don't do something nice or gentlemanly because you'll get something in return. That is no longer being nice or gentlemanly, that is emotional manipulation with an underlying motive. You do it because it is the nice thing to do.

I may be coming off as a hard-nosed , but that's what you really need. You don't need your ego stroked and a reassuring arm round the shoulder. You need some cold-hard perspective. So do as the Texan said earlier, do the more important things in your life first. Set some goals, set some things you want to achieve. And go after them. As a result you'll gain confidence, self-esteem and you'll find yourself swimming in ladies who are interested in you because you are interesting and driven.

I don't do it because i want something in return, it's just natural for me to treat people nicely in general, probably nicer than most people do. really, the only times I ever get mad are if somebody touches me agressively, like pushing, punching, etc. I keep a cool demeanor and treat people well, I treat females especially in high regard on whole, not because I hope to get something, but because its an instinct.

[Hax]

now, just relax, be grateful, and pray that you'll never doing "that sin" before you got married

Take this proselytising elsewhere, like the Backroom for example. This concept of "sin" is most likely not his concept of sin, nor is it my concept of sin.

I don't do it because i want something in return, it's just natural for me to treat people nicely in general, probably nicer than most people do.

I don't really think these assumptions are necessary.

[Prussian to the Iron]

I don't really think these assumptions are necessary.

assumptions? not really. people are total a-holes to eachother. I am almost never mean to anyone. except this 8th grader in my German class. pissing me off. frickin under-underclassmen. underunderunder. ********.

[Hax]

assumptions? not really. people are total a-holes to eachother. I am almost never mean to anyone. except this 8th grader in my German class. pissing me off. frickin under-underclassmen. underunderunder. bastards.

What, for the 20-ish people you know? Stop behaving like you're the only moral person in the world, please. It only puts off more and more people, which is quite counterproductive. There's a lot of good in the world, if you know where to find it.

[Megas Methuselah]

Maybe they dont have chivalry in Canada?

We count coup.

[Hax]

you know nothing about the places I attend or the people I know, they are probably far different from your own experiences.

Correct, however, I do know human beings, and they're not nearly as bad as you describe them to be. And seriously, how much faith are you putting in a bunch of fifteen year olds?