Trait Building?

[drone]

My strategy is to try and develop some great vice free governors, but first I need to know if governors die from old age in the course of the game?

Generals/governors die from old age, but by default they are replaced with a younger general with the same stats and VnVs. You can change this by running the game with the -green_generals switch, the replacement will be a fresh start. Can't remember if the title conveys in either case, or if you get the option to reassign on old age death.

The MTW guides mention that you can demolish and rebuild farms to build up your governors virtues. With reference to the above question, how feasible is this?

What levels of farms do you build up and demolish?

The .pdf says that to get the steward trait, you have to improve your farms by two levels from 0 to 40% or from 20% to 60% to trigger the trait. Does building 20% farms twice count?

Not sure about this one. I assume you can just build Improved Farmland I, destroy, rinse/lather/repeat. Never tried it, I'm usually to busy building up province infrastructure to spend the 2 extra years.

What is the best way to get the magnificent steward trait other than through the passage of time?

Keep building farm improvements.

Edit: Forgot to ask: Can one man govern multiple regions?

Nope, only one region per governor.

[Gaiseric]

Thank you very much for the quick reply!!! I am playing Ancient: Total War right now and just started getting back into this game. I'll do some tests with farms and governors in my next couple of campaigns and see how it turns out. I'll post the results on how the trait building goes in my campaigns, back here on this thread.

[Gaiseric]

Generals/governors die from old age, but by default they are replaced with a younger general with the same stats and VnVs. You can change this by running the game with the -green_generals switch, the replacement will be a fresh start. Can't remember if the title conveys in either case, or if you get the option to reassign on old age death.

Didnt mean to double post but I thought that I should check to see what the -green_generals switch is? How can I find out if Ancient:Total War uses this, and how do I restore it to default?

Thanks:)

[drone]

Didnt mean to double post but I thought that I should check to see what the -green_generals switch is? How can I find out if Ancient:Total War uses this, and how do I restore it to default?

The switches are built into the executable, so every mod should have the -green_generals capability. To run with it, right-click on the launch icon on your desktop, and select Properties. Under "Shortcut", you want to modify the "Target" line, add -green_generals inside the quotes after the Medieval_TW.exe. Hit OK to save, and then double-click the icon to launch the game.

[Gaiseric]

Thanks for Answering!!! That would have been the last place I would have looked for something that changes the game so much. Lol, good thing you replied when you did. You saved me a whole night of endless searching through the .txt files.

Its good to see that there is an option for replacements. MTW is such a great game!!! I'll build some governor traits for a few campaigns and maybe come back to this thread and add that line to my game.

[Gaiseric]

Sorry to double post again drone. Dont know if thats worse then starting a new thread in a dried up forum.

Anyway, I dont think that I will be able to use my governor strategy because I am having trouble recruiting loyal generals with decent acumen. The ones I have been getting lately have either one or the other. Other then handing out titles, what are some ways to improve a units\generals loyalty?

[drone]

The main methods of increasing loyalty are:

• Bestowing titles.
• Marrying princesses to the general (the incest vice is possible if the general has royal lineage).
• Keeping the general in close proximity to the faction leader. A general in the leader's stack gets loyalty pretty quickly, and cannot lead a revolt since the faction leader is always the commander of his stack. But keeping a general in the same province or within a couple of provinces from the leader helps.
• Increasing the Influence of the faction leader. This is key, a low Influence king is a prime target for a civil war.

[Gaiseric]

Ok, Thanks!!!

Does proximity raise loyalty or just reduce the chance of rebellion? I have been getting some 4 acumen generals but with only one loyalty. If I give them a title, it can bump their loyalty up to two. I would like to use these generals as governors, but I dont know how much I can depend on them even if my King is 1 province away. I am also unfamiliar with how to raise my kings influence?

I have tried using spies to give a trial to my low loyalty generals for treason. This is actually an easy way to increase spy valor early in the game. If the trial is successful, the low loyalty general will be executed and replaced with a random general, and the spy gains valor.

I think the quality of generals that are recruited in terms of loyalty and acumen in a game is random too. I have had some very successful early games and other early games where my generals were all poor quality. I am unsure if certain buildings can give any bonuses to the acumen and loyalty of the generals I recruit?

As far as trait building goes, In one of my better early games I was able to keep my governors vice free by leaving them out of stacks and at the same time build up their traits for the buildings I constructed. It was also interesting to notice that if you leave governors out of stacks they still can get good traits and good trait improvements. I haven't noticed any bad traits appearing in out of stack governors, but it was still early game. The kings traits must be global because for some reason I was able to build up my governors traits on the same province the king was in.

I'll keep trying to build up my governors and generals traits and reply to this thread on how it is going. Right now I am looking for good loyalty generals with at least 4 acumen to govern. My success at recruiting generals like this varies from between 1 in 10 to 1 in 20. It can be quite frustrating to go 10 to 20 turns in game, recruiting generals in each province, every turn, and still not have many qualified candidates. I am playing a country with a good economy and safe start position. I imagine it is very difficult to try to develop governors with some factions, although it does pay off if you are using the default settings, where generals are replaced by someone with the same traits and stats when they die. What strategies do you use for assigning and training governors?