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    Default Sound Issues with MTW and XP

    I have Windows XP, and I have had Medieval: Total War for years, 1.0, on my computer (didn't know anything about patches and all that - I just enjoyed what I had). I've had some audio oddities the whole time in battles, but I ignored them (details below). I just got the Gold Edition today, so I went to uninstall the one I had...

    Well, when I put in the disc (1.0), it only gave me the "Install" option, and not the "Play" or "Uninstall" options. Odd, since I've been playing it the whole time. So I went into the Program Files and tried to send the Medieval Total War file to the Recycling Bin by hand. It said I wasn't allowed for some reason in an error message. Well, fine.

    So I installed the Gold Edition completely, which installed in its own folder. Then I ejected the disc, and reinserted it. Even for the Gold Edition, I just got the "Install" option instead of "Play.". But when I use the desktop icon, it starts up, just like my vanilla version. I patched it to 2.01, and that worked, and the icon works, but when I put in the disc, it only gives me the option to uninstall. So now I have two installs of Medieval: Total War, one of which refuses to go away.

    Now the audio malfunctions...my battle audio in Gold Edition is still 'chunky' like my last game (i.e. I get certain sounds at a time...music + marching, or music + fighting, or just fighting sounds for seconds at a time or just the death screams, or often complete silence). I often get little "error" windows in my battles, exclaiming missing sounds I think, often using the word "Crusader" in the errors. Hitting the space-bar or return key makes them go away for the battle to continue, but in the vanilla game, sometimes it wouldn't go away and I've have to forcibly close the game, restart it and Auto-Resolve the battle to avoid the error.

    What's up with my game?! I would like to have all of my audio in battles all the time as that adds to the effect (obviously), and especially be able to complete my battles without error, and if the two problems listed above are linked, I'd love to know if there's a known fix for it. Do I need to tone down the audio quality in Options?

    Thanks in advance for any help!
    Last edited by Dyabedes of Aphrodisias; 11-03-2010 at 09:47.

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    Default Re: Ghost Installations?

    For your installation issues, do you still have a folder for your original MTW in your start menu? If I remember correctly, the uninstall option is in there. I would attempt to deinstall both completely, then install MTW Gold (and patch) before trying to play. What error message did you see when you tried to just delete the directory? I'm guessing it was the "deleteing an .exe" error, which you should be able to bypass. I've never tried it, but since you can just copy the entirety of MTW for a separate mod install, I assume you can just delete the directory without a problem. I don't think there are any registry keys to delete, but don't quote me on that...

    I'm assuming that you see the correct version number (2.01) on the main menu screen when you start up Gold. When you patched it, did you use the MTW Gold 2.01 patch, or the MTW/VI 2.01 patch?
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    Default Re: Ghost Installations?

    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    For your installation issues, do you still have a folder for your original MTW in your start menu? If I remember correctly, the uninstall option is in there. I would attempt to deinstall both completely, then install MTW Gold (and patch) before trying to play. What error message did you see when you tried to just delete the directory? I'm guessing it was the "deleteing an .exe" error, which you should be able to bypass. I've never tried it, but since you can just copy the entirety of MTW for a separate mod install, I assume you can just delete the directory without a problem. I don't think there are any registry keys to delete, but don't quote me on that...

    I'm assuming that you see the correct version number (2.01) on the main menu screen when you start up Gold. When you patched it, did you use the MTW Gold 2.01 patch, or the MTW/VI 2.01 patch?
    Hi, thanks for the reply.

    I went to see what error it gave me when I tried to delete the original MTW (it said something or somebody else was using it), but it decided to delete this time. So that problem is solved. The Uninstall option in the Start menu never did anything at all. Since that's not my problem any more, the title of this topic should be "Sound Issues" or somesuch - thanks in advance if that can be changed.

    I do have the correct version number on the startup screen, and I used the Gold Edition patch, not the VI patch.

    I just started another battle and got the errors. They say various versions of "E_OutOfMemory_426" followed by a specification like "E:MTW_TROOPS MARCH SLOW." Every time I say "OK" another window is behind it with a different thing it can't seem to remember, with headings like "DirectxCall" and "Failed to Play 3D Sound." I had to close the game with the Task Manager again.
    Last edited by Dyabedes of Aphrodisias; 11-04-2010 at 05:55.

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    Default Re: Ghost Installations?

    Normally I would say a corrupt MTW install, but unlikely if you have been having it for both a new and old load. How old is your XP OS install and what does a dxdiag show for you?
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    Default Re: Ghost Installations?

    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    Normally I would say a corrupt MTW install, but unlikely if you have been having it for both a new and old load. How old is your XP OS install and what does a dxdiag show for you?
    Thank you for the title edit!

    I have Version 2002, Service Pack 3.

    DxDiag:

    Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600)
    Language: English
    System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
    System Model: Pavilion dv8000
    BIOS: Ver 1.00PARTTBL
    Processor: AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML34, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.8GHz
    Memory: 1022MB RAM
    Page File: 811MB used, 1648MB available
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

    Sound:

    Name: Conexant AMC Audio
    DirectX Features: Hardware Sound Acceleration Level: Full acceleration
    Last edited by Dyabedes of Aphrodisias; 11-06-2010 at 03:42.

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    Default Re: Ghost Installations?

    I'm a little out of my league here, but here goes.

    Here's the latest HP driver page for the dv8000 series:
    http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...5&swEnvOID=228
    What version audio driver do you have?

    And just to be sure, you have XP 32-bit, correct?

    Edit-> Is there a control panel for the Conexant Audio? I'd be curious to see what options it gives you.
    Last edited by drone; 11-06-2010 at 06:01.
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