How do you feel about the death of AI factions?

[Fluvius Camillus]

I have mixed feelings about them, I always see it as a nice achievement if the AI unites things. Like take whole Gaul, take whole Hellas, take whole Iberia etc. etc. This usually costs the life of an AI faction. Sometimes I am bothered by this and sometimes I am not. I like to police the world a bit, but certainly not too much. I never cheat.

In my AS game, I FD'ed Kyrene as a protectorate (it was the final Ptolemaic city). However the Qarthadast finished them off and now I miss them a bit. I might have used them to simulate a civil war, because they share the barracks and many troops.

Summed up, it depends on which faction exits, if I feel any pity. If they are my allies however, I will certainly do my best to rescue them (failed in the Kyrene case though)!

If I finish off factions myself, I rarely care. It usually makes me unite something, which I like to do. But for that, we also differ a lot in our gameplay styles.

~Fluvius

[QuintusSertorius]

Islands are one way to preserve factions, assuming they don't collapse so fast they lose all their FMs outside of the safe zones. Koinon Hellenon has Rhodos which is a way to stop them dying if you haven't taken it. The Ptolemies have Kypros. Karthadastim a string of island provinces which are only vulnerable to the player (unless you're using bi.exe). You could always give another Greek faction Krete. I'm not sure there are any other islands which can't be attacked from land and thus be used as somewhere to stash a defeated faction rather than let them go.

Mostly I just don't like how fast the game changes, left untended you could have three factions gone in 60 turns.

[Duguntz]

It depends. In general, i tend to not expand before a long time, I stay in Germania, and then expand threw France and Italy, in the "Middle" period (round 220, 200 BC) Between 272 and 200 BC, I skirmish with the gauls and, Rome, who sooner or later comes knocking on the wrong door! If gauls atack me, i role play a punitive expedition, killing the populace and destroying every building that can be destroy, appart of wonders, in the towns bordering my country. If they continue to piss me off, then they're dead, not only I destroy their faction, but in the process I raze to the ground each of their towns and cities, and do not feel any guilt with that. If they bring 3 fm's in the battle, my priority is to kill them. I like when they survive or escape, as it's not my wish, and i get to have a revenge against them. i like to folloow the history of each caracter :P

[Cambyses]

Well, in general Im happy as the fewer factions there are, the quicker the turns are calculated. Also, if Im growing into a massive superpower its kind of nice to have at least one AI faction that is doing the same, so that the end game can be a bit more competitve and challenging. There are plenty of ahistorical annoyances about the AIs expansion beahviour, but then again the human player is capable of expanding to places that the AI never can, so I see it as a kind of necessary evil in order to give the AI enough resources to provide a proper challenge.

[Fluvius Camillus]

Well, in general Im happy as the fewer factions there are, the quicker the turns are calculated. Also, if Im growing into a massive superpower its kind of nice to have at least one AI faction that is doing the same, so that the end game can be a bit more competitve and challenging. There are plenty of ahistorical annoyances about the AIs expansion beahviour, but then again the human player is capable of expanding to places that the AI never can, so I see it as a kind of necessary evil in order to give the AI enough resources to provide a proper challenge.

Agreed, when I played Baktria I faced a Western Roman Empire (excl, North Africa, Illyria and Britannia). In the future I will face even a bigger one with my AS campaign.

The same went for my Romani campaign where at one point, the world was divided between me and the Grey death. Good times, good times.

~Fluvius

[Arjos]

I really don't like seeing factions die...
Sometimes I went to war just to stop one faction destroying another, but in the end the AI ruins everything :P
BTW yes the map must be tilted towards the north XD

[vartan]

@OP: Did you mean to say what* I think* about blabla? or did you really mean feel?

I ask because I have empathy for living beings, especially humans, but not the slightest sympathy for non-living things, except for artwork (which could be in the form of fine arts, performing arts, architecture, etc.). So, in this case, I have no sympathy for ones and zeroes that my computer processes.

[Blxz]

Agreed, when I played Baktria I faced a Western Roman Empire (excl, North Africa, Illyria and Britannia). In the future I will face even a bigger one with my AS campaign.

The same went for my Romani campaign where at one point, the world was divided between me and the Grey death. Good times, good times.

~Fluvius

I am exactly the reverse, as you have already seen in my thread. A western roman empire excluding africa, spain, illyria and britannia VS a massive, evil AS of doom. Maybe the AI is channeling a bit of fluvius? Its certainly going for a World Conquest.

As for AI faction death? I cause most of them. I will specifically chase a war all the way to conclusion in an effort to beat them, ignoring convinient rebel territories until I control the entire area. I find that I have developed a bit of a taste for all the pretty 'faction defeated' popup screens. Plus I hate being attacked by the enemy.

[Titus Marcellus Scato]

I don't like AI factions being killed off by other AI factions, and I will do what I can to prevent it.

The only power that has the right to kill off another faction is me!

[Megas Methuselah]

Mostly I just don't like how fast the game changes, left untended you could have three factions gone in 60 turns.

Bro, I feel the same way. When a faction is about to die, I help it migrate to a small, empty corner of the map. I, later, re-name and re-colour 'em.