Speculations

[Prince Cobra]

Alright. Let's start speculating.

As a game system, how close will the STW2 be to the NTW? Or the original STW?

What features do you think it will take from the two games?

[Magyar Khan]

80% NTW everything besides era
20% STW era

[Swoosh So]

Im pretty sure most of the features of NTW will make it back into shogun2, the only one i wonder about is drop in battles as they havent really worked as well as im sure CA hoped BUT!!!! theyre a great feature and one that just needs implimented better so i hope they do stay in! One feature i couldent really care less about is the naval battles i mean really i can play a NTW campaign and just auto resolve those and dont feel that im missing anything - theyre alright but really theyre just s*$te so why bother. I dont think naval battles will add much at all to shogun2 and i dont think seige battles are really going to be much good either. My memory of siege battles in all my totalwar games and campaigns is having the speed on fast forward killing off massive amounts of ai troops that have no chance whatsoever to win the battle - same with bridge battles. I dont know why anyone would think japanese seiges will be good with totalwar? the game never runs well with any sort of impassable terrain even a single building on a map can make the game a joke and in sieges its going to be almost comical yet again. You setup killzones the ai isent intelligent enough to spot them and goes mulling into them each time...

I hope the multiplayer campaigns make it into shogun totalwar as i love them! ofc napoleons era really isent to my liking but with shogun id love any form of multiplayer campaign infact i dont think id ever forgive CA if they dident include a mp campaign now.

SO i hope drop ins and mp campaign stays and i couldent care less about naval battles as id prefer those resources were used elsewhere. I actually hope theres NO NEW GAME MODES and that resources are used on improving what we have now.

A feature i would like to see back in is the old style reinforcements where all troops involved in a battle started on the battle field or at least were on their way, this system in napoleon of dribbling in 1 unit when you lose 1 allowing only ever 20 units in the battle is a joke and a massive step back for totalwar. Let the player have ai controlled reinforcement armies once again! the games just not epic at all without this.. The current system also makes life hard for the ai as you could simply kill off the first army and position to slaughter the reinforcements unit by unit if the ai has 3 armies attacking your one with the current system its easy mode if the ai had 3 armies with the old system they may well overwhelm you.

[Tempiic]

Noo...

Last sunday I played whole day and evening just naval games and had a good time (and winrate, unlike my landgames). And there are only 3 different very similiar maps to pick from :P Then again, I am not sure how naval will be like in S2TW. I think the lack of broadside firing with forward moving will make it a very different game compared to NTW naval, and perhaps more like land games as there will be more of a stone-scissor-paper element in.

If I was bothered with SP campaign, I guess I most likely would agree with you on your reinforcement comment Swoosh. ;)

[Swoosh So]

would you miss naval combat if land battles were good?

[Tempiic]

Actually in NTW, I am enjoying both. It's just that I never did like 1v1's much so far, excluding ntw naval games.

It's more of a question if shogun naval battles will be good. ;) It will be very different for sure.