Unit Addiction

[The_Blacksmith]

Hey lads....

I know a good commander should be able to fight any battle and so, with any kind of army
BUT
Is there any unit you would cut finances, risk armies and so to get... which you are allmost addiced to?

im semi addicted to Dåhå Nobles they are so goooood
i mean, who can turn down a bow and a huge lance with loads of armor? and the fact that they can kill Saka Generals :D

[QuintusSertorius]

I guess so, I have some serious favourites, but fortunately they're all cheap. Classical Hoplites, Thureophoroi and Peltastai (Thracian and Hellenic) are some of my favourite infantry. You could virtually build an army around them (and I have!) but it will hardly break the bank doing so. Not hard to access, either, being available all around the Med.

Cavalry-wise I like Hellenistic bodyguard cavalry (particularly the Epirote ones; not so much armour as others, but really good stamina for heavy cavalry), Celtic Leuce Epos/Curepos. Again they're cheap but very effective if you use them right.

[The_Blacksmith]

Cavalry-wise I like Hellenistic bodyguard cavalry (particularly the Epirote ones; not so much armour as others, but really good stamina for heavy cavalry), Celtic Leuce Epos/Curepos. Again they're cheap but very effective if you use them right.

I totally agree! good stamina for heavy cav is really addictive! and Thessalian Cav can really break the bank with 1000 mnai in unkeep, thats where Curepos reaal gets it right... they are available in many Mare Nostrum regions and have javs (something Thessalian dont have) and they have loads of stamina and a fine charge... they are kinda like the Rider class HA (Thats what i call them: Scythian Riders, Dåhå Riders spear and bow HA's)

[QuintusSertorius]

I totally agree! good stamina for heavy cav is really addictive! and Thessalian Cav can really break the bank with 1000 mnai in unkeep, thats where Curepos reaal gets it right... they are available in many Mare Nostrum regions and have javs (something Thessalian dont have) and they have loads of stamina and a fine charge... they are kinda like the Rider class HA (Thats what i call them: Scythian Riders, Dåhå Riders spear and bow HA's)

This is it for me; I don't really have a use for recruitable heavy cavalry. They're expensive, tire out too fast and so are only good for one or two charges. While my Epirote FM bodyguards always have enough left in the tank to chase down routers. Curepos have lances, meaning they're almost as effective in a charge to the rear, and they can do it all day long.

[Folgore]

I declared war on the Aedui in my Carthage campaign for the sole reason of getting Gaesatae. :D

[Brennus]

For me it would have to be the Leuce Epos and Belgic Minhalt, unstoppable together.

[The_Blacksmith]

This is it for me; I don't really have a use for recruitable heavy cavalry. They're expensive, tire out too fast and so are only good for one or two charges. While my Epirote FM bodyguards always have enough left in the tank to chase down routers. Curepos have lances, meaning they're almost as effective in a charge to the rear, and they can do it all day long.

well... my experience tell me that Curepos have a tendency to die in mass when charging anything heavier than Prodromoi even to the rear... due to the lack of stirups...

thats why i like having 1-2 heavy cav to charge in my stacks...

[vollorix]

Raetic Axemen are my favorite unit, though mostly hired as mercs, they are the most versatile you can deploy anywhere: as line troops, as flankers, to assault of walls, and their stamina rocks too ;)

[QuintusSertorius]

well... my experience tell me that Curepos have a tendency to die in mass when charging anything heavier than Prodromoi even to the rear... due to the lack of stirups...

thats why i like having 1-2 heavy cav to charge in my stacks...

I don't use them to charge other cavalry (other than driving off skirmishing cavalry), that's what my FMs are for. They're for skipping behind the enemy line and throwing javelins in the backs of their infantry, then charging them when they're weakened.

[bobbin]

well... my experience tell me that Curepos have a tendency to die in mass when charging anything heavier than Prodromoi even to the rear... due to the lack of stirups...

It's a bit of a modern myth that you need stirrups to mount an effective charge, a saddle with a high back was the real requirement. Stirrups improved stability some what, but their real strength was that they allowed to user to stand up in the saddle, which is very useful in melee or for throwing javelins.

Regarding the OP: Thracian Peltasts and Bosporan Archers are usually pretty high on my "to get" list.

[Ca Putt]

firstly the Illyrian hippeis, admitavely I don't conquer illyria for that sole purpose but I buy them as soon as they are availible as mercs^^.

then there are (most) balkan troops. its mainly the elites foud there which often "force" me to roleplay one of my Generals is thirsting for glory, takes his "own" troops adds some mercs and runs amok in tracia, as conquering the Getai is actually not part of my regular KH-agenda. tracian prodromoi may not be really superior to normal ones but having them is sort of a prestige thing: hey look everybody else only has nomal prodromoi I've got "special" prodromoi.

last but not least I'd like to mention unique greek colony troops I often cross vast distances to get my hands on.

[The_Blacksmith]

It's a bit of a modern myth that you need stirrups to mount an effective charge, a saddle with a high back was the real requirement. Stirrups improved stability some what, but their real strength was that they allowed to user to stand up in the saddle, which is very useful in melee or for throwing javelins.

Regarding the OP: Thracian Peltasts and Bosporan Archers are usually pretty high on my "to get" list.

I ride horses myself and yes, i have tried riding with a lance, and its hard as hell without stirups but yeah, you're right, a seated sattle would help a great deal or leg armor, to pausible make you heavier and make you more stable is a choice too.. how ever, many medium and light cav rides with a pony sattle (a canvis or leather sattle, strapped to the horse for tight and butt padding)

* some cav like numedian cav rides without anything which im a big admirer off... the first 5-6 years riding as much as they do must make a hell of a sore butt

[moonburn]

kretikoi and thorokitai are both must have i just feel safer having them on my side since they enable me to use the rest of whatever ragtag i can gather in a more flexible way since 1st i can forçe them to come to me (kretikoi) and 2nd the thorokitai never brake

then there´s the lusotannan medium infantry besides cool haircuts and nice looking armour they can hold a batle line wich again enables me the security to manouver around and start my favourite encirclement tactic

[Africanus]

kretikoi

That's definitely my addiction.

All my armies are equipped with a unit of these suckers. Chevron them up a bit, and watch the enemy disappear!

[Cute Wolf]

Shivatir-ig Pahlavanig and Duna Asya, an army comprised solely from them can kill everything if properly micro-ed, great for nomad blitz wars

[Lazy O]

Agrianikoi Peleikephoroi Dosent matter if im in babulon by the time these were availaible.... I still recruited them :D

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Cretan and Caucasian archers for me. Almost all Cretans I have are mercenaries because I never build up the barracks in Crete.

[Arjos]

None :P
I like various rosters and different armies ^^

[The Celtic Viking]

Any Celtic unit, really. I get them any time I can, and when I can't, I long for them. It's a good thing they are available almost everywhere at least as mercenaries if nothing else.

[DaciaJC]

Drapanai, certainly. Good thing they're cheap as dirt.

And when I'm not playing as Getai, I can recruit the mercenary equivalents (Druhtiz Bastarnisku).

[pinheirohr]

Hello to all. I've been playing EB mostly with romans and maks but I end up always hiring the same mercs: kretans and the galatian version of the Geasatea. this last ones may be very expensive but they are worth it. On my factional rooster as roman I would say that Pedites ext. are the ones I rely on. On average army I use 2 units but will go up to 4 if I expect a hard fight. Not very accurate from a historic point view...but I can't resist. As Maks, usualy I stick with levy phalanxs. They can hold a line long enough for me to use other units for flanking manouvers. Specialy if the flankers are those galatians berserkers.

[QuintusSertorius]

Any Celtic unit, really. I get them any time I can, and when I can't, I long for them. It's a good thing they are available almost everywhere at least as mercenaries if nothing else.

Three Celtic units I always have time for are Iaosatae, Curepos/Leuce Epos and Keltohellenikoi. All widely available as mercs, which is one of the things that makes them so good.

[Atraphoenix]

10 units of these guys and you have no fear of losing any battle ....

[The_Blacksmith]

10 units of these guys and you have no fear of losing any battle ....

Oh so true... oh so true....

[VikingPower]

I really like the Iberian units and sometimes wonder whether they were the only real infantry which could have beaten the Romans, that is if the Spanish peninsula were united before the Romans obtained too much territory.

Iberian assault infantry (good against everyone)
Iberian Medium spearmen (good against everyone except super heavy infantry)
Lusotana light infantry/Balearic light infantry (for being mix of AP units and skirmishers)

Other special units:

Milnaht and Mori Gaesum if their unit spacing were broader.
Gallic aux cavalry for being Leuce Eipos missile proof.
Rhaetic axemen/Alpine phalanx for being cheap professional troops.

[vartan]

Yee-haw!

[Fluvius Camillus]

Usually the extreme elite units, I just can form a decent royal army without them.

~Fluvius

[Olaf The Great]

I once recruited an Army of 1 Velorix, 16 Two handed Swordsmen, and 3 Remi Marepos.

It tears EVERYTHING to Shreds.

[gamegeek2]

I'd like to fire some arrows against that army.

Anyways, my fave unit would be the Keltohellenikoi Hoplitai. Perhaps the most cost-efficient unit in the game, alongside THraikioi Peltastai.

[vartan]

Anyways, my fave unit would be the Keltohellenikoi Hoplitai. Perhaps the most cost-efficient unit in the game, alongside THraikioi Peltastai.

If you don't count their (relatively) horrible morale (both under 13).