Unit Addiction

**vartan** · 01-04-2011, 07:08

Originally Posted by gamegeek2

Anyways, my fave unit would be the Keltohellenikoi Hoplitai. Perhaps the most cost-efficient unit in the game, alongside THraikioi Peltastai.

If you don't count their (relatively) horrible morale (both under 13).

**Lazy O** · 01-04-2011, 16:50

Does it matter? Youre facing an AI.....

**IrishHitman** · 01-05-2011, 16:35

Hetairoi hands down.
The Companion Cavalry.

Ridiculously effective but not a literal tank like some of the Cav you'd see out East..

**CCadaver** · 01-06-2011, 04:24

I like Iaosatae. As the Arverni, I never bother with any other ranged unit. By the time I have access to them, my iaosatae are all silver chevrons. Once they are gold chevrons, I can even use them as a light infantry. But by then I tend to spread them out among my armies so that everyone usually has at least one experienced unit.

Even if I can get kretikoi, they are usually mercs, and thus can't be retrained, or they can only be trained in Krete, Antioch, or Alexandria, which is usually too far away. Plus, slingers have the AP trait, which is great against romans and hellenistic factions.

**The_Blacksmith** · 01-06-2011, 11:22

Originally Posted by IrishHitman

Hetairoi hands down.
The Companion Cavalry.

Ridiculously effective but not a literal tank like some of the Cav you'd see out East..

Im not really the big Hetairoi fan, they only have 3-4 good charges in them so, you REALLY need to make them count... but sometimes, you just need something to take out the heavier generals cav... i preffer my slingers (who has 2-3 silver chevrons) 3-4 of them can easily take out a 36 unit general...

**QuintusSertorius** · 01-06-2011, 11:56

Originally Posted by The_Blacksmith

Im not really the big Hetairoi fan, they only have 3-4 good charges in them so, you REALLY need to make them count... but sometimes, you just need something to take out the heavier generals cav... i preffer my slingers (who has 2-3 silver chevrons) 3-4 of them can easily take out a 36 unit general...

This is why I like the Epirote bodyguard, all the hitting power of Hetairoi, but with bags more stamina.

EDIT: 3-4 units of slingers is a bit excessive (and makes things rather easy), one is my limit.

**-42-** · 01-06-2011, 20:43

In my Pontus campaign I risked bankruptcy to get my hands on the Galatian noble infantry early on. Those guys absolutely steamrolled everything that the Seleucids and Ptolies could throw at me.

I also blitzed North Africa in my Carthage campaign for the express purpose of getting Numidian Nobles and Maure Infantry. The Maure are more or less Botroas with more javelins, and were extremely useful in Iberia, as were the Gldmtk.

**Fluvius Camillus** · 01-07-2011, 00:09

Originally Posted by -42-

In my Pontus campaign I risked bankruptcy to get my hands on the Galatian noble infantry early on. Those guys absolutely steamrolled everything that the Seleucids and Ptolies could throw at me.

I also blitzed North Africa in my Carthage campaign for the express purpose of getting Numidian Nobles and Maure Infantry. The Maure are more or less Botroas with more javelins, and were extremely useful in Iberia, as were the Gldmtk.

Say that out loud, I challenge you!

Indeed, I also like to go to lengths of trouble for certain regionals (Thraikian Elite at Tylis, Kinsmen in the east, Bosphoran archers on the.... guess what?

)

I got a great array of multi-culti armies in my current campaign.

~Fluvius

**IrishHitman** · 01-08-2011, 04:41

Originally Posted by The_Blacksmith

Im not really the big Hetairoi fan, they only have 3-4 good charges in them so, you REALLY need to make them count... but sometimes, you just need something to take out the heavier generals cav... i preffer my slingers (who has 2-3 silver chevrons) 3-4 of them can easily take out a 36 unit general...

I've gotten far more charges than 3-4 out of Hetairoi, it's all about timing....
I don't use Hetairoi for commander assassination, I tend to prefer ranged attacks for that.

**Lazy O** · 01-08-2011, 18:19

Does it matter even if a heavy cav unit is exhausted? If you playo n normal which the game was designed for, it(charge) will still break anything

**QuintusSertorius** · 01-08-2011, 18:58

Originally Posted by Lazy O

Does it matter even if a heavy cav unit is exhausted? If you playo n normal which the game was designed for, it(charge) will still break anything

It matters as far as how many they kill on the charge goes. Knackered heavy cavalry are useless unless they're charging into a unit that's already on the verge of breaking.