I like to ask my fellow .Orgah members what are they majoring in or have they majored in university for?
Computer programming I'm working on at the moment, may switch to Business or Criminal Justice though.
Hooahguy 20:18 12-21-2010
Will be double majoring in Criminal Justice and Judaic Studies, and minoring in Terrorism studies.
The Stranger 21:35 12-21-2010
philosophy
History and Social History.
Tellos Athenaios 21:59 12-21-2010
Computer programming?
Computer Science.
I don't know about this whole majoring and minoring thing, but the closest translation(IMO) for what I study is computer and business science.
Rhyfelwyr 23:21 12-21-2010
If majoring is the same idea as a Uni degree over him, I'm doing History/Politics.
Only 6 months left. Phew!
The Stranger 23:50 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by Hooahguy:
Will be double majoring in Criminal Justice and Judaic Studies, and minoring in Terrorism studies.
criminal justice is linked to judaic studies?
Hooahguy 00:11 12-22-2010
Originally Posted by The Stranger:
criminal justice is linked to judaic studies?
No, but at University of Maryland, if you do a major in Judaic Studies, then you get to go there for in-state tuition even if you live in another state, all thanks to the Academic Common Market.
Marketing (BBus). Business Information Systems Management (BScIT).
Originally Posted by Hooahguy:
No, but at University of Maryland, if you do a major in Judaic Studies, then you get to go there for in-state tuition even if you live in another state, all thanks to the Academic Common Market.
How does that work?
Have you enjoyed your first riot yet at UofM?
Megas Methuselah 06:02 12-22-2010
Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr:
I'm doing History/Politics.
Likewise.
Rhyfelwyr, we are better than everyone else.
Hooahguy 06:32 12-22-2010
Originally Posted by
drone:
How does that work? 
Have you enjoyed your first riot yet at UofM?
Im taking a gap year before I start UMD, but I do plan on joining the Student Police Auxiliary, so this might turn out interesting.
Anyhow, heres how the Academic Common Market thing works:
So, if a state college which is part of the ACM doesnt have a major you want, you can attend another state college that is part of the ACM that does have the major. In this case, no state college in Georgia has Judaics as a major, and UMD does, so I get to go to UMD for the in state tuition.
Another History/Poli Sci double major over here. Currently in Year 3, and I haven't cracked yet.
Centurion1 10:03 12-22-2010
i almost played football at college park. crap hole that place is....
im majoring in a dual program for economics/mathematics
Reenk Roink 10:27 12-22-2010
Physics, minor Biology
Originally Posted by The Stranger:
philosophy
What the **** man!? You're way too smart to waste your talents like this.
The Stranger 13:50 12-22-2010
Originally Posted by
Reenk Roink:
Physics, minor Biology
What the **** man!? You're way too smart to waste your talents like this. 
ill take that as a compliment

al Roumi 15:02 12-22-2010
Originally Posted by The Stranger:
criminal justice is linked to judaic studies?
...and terrorism?
History, chosen specialization (and thesis focus) was Modern European
Law. Additional degrees in tax law and notary law (assuming "major" is = master degree (university degree?)?)
Hooahguy 16:06 12-22-2010
Originally Posted by alh_p:
...and terrorism?
Wow, seriously? After I just explained all that?
Ugh. As a career path I want to work in counter-terrorism, hence my major in CJ and minor in terrorism studies.
*smacks forehead*
The Stranger 16:08 12-22-2010
major is same as bachelor i think. and minor is just some additional stuff u can do but dont have to. atleast thats how it is in holland.
Originally Posted by Andres:
Law. Additional degrees in tax law and notary law (assuming "major" is = master degree (university degree?)?)
No, major refers to a specialization that US undergraduate schools require for obtaining a BA/BS degree. For instance, my undergraduate degree is a BA in History. To obtain the major, a person has to take more numerous, and more advanced, classes in that particular focus than is otherwise required for the Bachelor's degree. Particular requirements for the majors vary depending on the major and the school at which it is obtained.
A minor is a lesser specialization in a different subject than the major. Many schools do not require minors and they're not generally very useful for anything beyond personal knowledge.
Originally Posted by TinCow:
No, major refers to a specialization that US undergraduate schools require for obtaining a BA/BS degree. For instance, my undergraduate degree is a BA in History. To obtain the major, a person has to take more numerous, and more advanced, classes in that particular focus than is otherwise required for the Bachelor's degree. Particular requirements for the majors vary depending on the major and the school at which it is obtained.
A minor is a lesser specialization in a different subject than the major. Many schools do not require minors and they're not generally very useful for anything beyond personal knowledge.
I'm confused
So majors and minors have nothing to do with university?
Why do you have such a weird educational system?
Hooahguy 16:39 12-22-2010
No, majors and minors do play a major part of the system. You attend Uni to pursue a major/minor.
al Roumi 16:39 12-22-2010
Originally Posted by
Andres:
I'm confused 
So majors and minors have nothing to do with university?
Why do you have such a weird educational system?
It's a long story. We had differences, they wanted to feel special and valued -we just wanted their lunch money.
Originally Posted by
Andres:
I'm confused 
So majors and minors have nothing to do with university?
Why do you have such a weird educational system?
I think the confusion is that the US has a two-tier university system, which is not present in many other countries.
The first tier is generally referred to as undergraduate school. The undergraduate level takes an average of four years to complete, though it can be done in less (or more) time. Graduation from undergraduate schooling results in a Bachelor's degree (BA for arts and humanities, BS for sciences). The Bachelor's degree is a degree that certifies that a person has received a
general education with classes in
all areas of study. However, all Bachelor's degrees also require that the student specialize in at least one area. That specialization is referred to as a 'major' and the student takes more classes (and gains more knowledge) in that specific area of study than they do in the other general courses. So, while the Bachelor's degree is still for general education, the major is an acknowledgment that the student is more focused in a specific area.
The second tier is generally referred to as graduate school. The graduate tier has no general education at all and is entirely focused on the study of the specific area that the person enrolls in. Medical school focuses exclusively on medicine, law school focuses exclusively on law, etc. Graduate degrees are considered to include all Masters and Doctorate degrees, including MA, MS, MD, JD, MBA, PhD, LLM, etc. The length of graduate schooling depends on the degree the person is attempting to get. Some degrees (like a Masters) can be completed in a single year. Some, like PhDs, can take five years or longer.
As a general rule, a "college" is a school that offers only undergraduate degrees, and a "university" is a school that offers both undergraduate and graduate degrees. However, there are many schools that violate this terminology for reasons I cannot understand, so there are exceptions.
al Roumi 16:44 12-22-2010
Originally Posted by Hooahguy:
Wow, seriously? After I just explained all that?
Ugh. As a career path I want to work in counter-terrorism, hence my major in CJ and minor in terrorism studies.
*smacks forehead*
Sorry, I was being facetious. And I am trying to stear clear of the Backroom line... My knowledge of the UK and other govts' counter terrorism strategies is that they are broadly based on 4 pillars, Prepare, Protect, Prevent and Pursue. My guess is Israel focuses on an extra "P", Provoke?
I'm intrigued though, what is it that makes you want to work in Counter Terorrism? Maybe that has a lot to do with what one considers to be counter terrorism work.
As a follow-up to my previous post, here's a basic diagram of the US education system:
Elementary School (in Europe, Primary School)
Ages: ~3 to 9
Degree: NONE
Goes Next to: Middle School
Middle School (in Europe, part of Primary School)
Ages: ~9 to 13
Degree: NONE
Goes Next to: High School
High School (in Europe, Secondary School)
Ages: ~14 to 18
Degree: High School Diploma
Goes Next to: JOB or Associate's Degree or Technical Degree or Undergraduate Degree
Associate College
Ages: ~18 to 20
Degree: Associate's Degree
Goes Next to: JOB or Undergraduate Degree
Technical College
Ages: ~18 to 20
Degree: Technical/Professional Degree
Goes Next to: JOB
Undergraduate College/University
Ages: ~18 to 21
Degree: Bachelor's Degree
Goes Next to: JOB or Graduate
Graduate College/University
Ages: ~21 to ???
Degree: Masters, Doctorate, etc.
Goes Next to: JOB or more Graduate
It is worth noting that 'Elementary School' and 'Middle School' are not really separate systems of any kind. They are simply a system used to differentiate between the age of the student. Some schools use 'Elementary School' for every student up to 12 or 13 years (without any 'Middle School'). Some only use it up to about age 6 or so. Some schools also have 'Junior High' which is about 12 to 14 years. However, it is all semantics. In every case, without exception, the entire Primary and Secondary School system in the US takes 13 years, from 'Kindergarden' to 12th grade. Elementary, Middle, Junior High, and High are all just case-specific names given to different years within the Primary/Secondary system.
The first degree that a person obtains is the High School degree, after completion of all of Primary and Secondary school. This is a very low-level general education degree and generally does not qualify a person for much more than the service industry or manual labor. After Secondary school, the undergraduate degree is still general education, but at a higher level and with the ability to focus on a particular area. An undergraduate degree can qualify a person for a basic job in a specialized field or a more advanced job in a basic field, but it depends greatly on the job, the person, and the quality of the degree itself (i.e. Harvard vs. Middle of Nowhere University). A graduate degree is generally required for all many high-level professions.
There are also two other degrees that I listed above but didn't discuss before. First, there is the Associate's Degree. This is usually an alternative to undergraduate. Like a Bachelor's degree, it is a degree in general education, but it takes only two years instead of four. On the job level, it provides a big boost over a High School degree, but not as big a boost as a Bachelor's Degree. Second, there is the Technical Degree. This is a specific degree in a professional field that requires specific knowledge, but not necessarily a large amount of schooling. This is for things like medical testing, repair/maintenance of industrial equipment, etc. Technical degrees can be obtained in one to two years (sometimes even six months), and are often mandatory for employment in those areas.
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