Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
And what of one and a half million dead Americans since the end of the Vietnam war?

We need to run industrial deathcamps in Europe to reach those levels of civilian casualties.

I realise the gun debate in America is over. The gun lobby has won. Perhaps in a generation or two sanity can be restored again. For now, I am happy if we can keep America's gun culture from exporting itself.

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England has very strict gun control laws. France much less so. America hardly any. The effect:



Gun Homicide (per 100,000)

Japan 0.03
Singapore 0.07
Taiwan 0.15
Kuwait 0.34
England/ Wales 0.07
Scotland 0.19
Netherlands 0.27
Spain 0.19
Ireland 0.30
Germany 0.21
Italy 1.16
Sweden 0.18
Denmark 0.23
Israel 0.72
New Zealand 0.22
Australia 0.56
Belgium 0.87
Canada 0.60
Norway 0.36
Austria 0.42
Northern Ireland 3.55
France 0.55
Switzerland 0.46
Finland 0.87
USA 6.24

Rates of firearms deaths for most countries are from:

United Nations Commission on Crime Prevention and Criminal Justice.
International study on firearm regulation (revised). Vienna: United
Nations, 1997.[tables 2.7, 6.2 and 7.1].
Hmm, maybe we ought to look at Switzerland. Most of the USA is due to gang violence, and conflicts over drugs. Stay out of that and the likelihood is significantly lower.

And hey, doesn't Northern Ireland have the same gun laws as England?

Also, IIRC roughly four times as many people die in car accidents in the USA.

CR