[EB] Introducing alternate rules (to make LazyO happy)

[VikingPower]

Early setting 30.000 minai – Only cheap and low tier troops

If all the players have a cheap and low quality troops then the odds should be even for all.

All infantry must be under 1600 minai, cavalry under 2500 minai, archers under 1100 minai, slingers under 800 minai. But the player can pick 1 general unit (half the manpower) Possible exceptions about units like levy phalangists, Polybian principes, Triarii, Rhaetic axemen, thracian peltasts, Alpine phalanx.... – for such units are much greater than their low cost implies.

No units allowed whom are more expensive

No elites

Maybe max 4-6 same unit

Dont know anything about the Nomads and their cavalry based upon cost.


High setting about 40.000 minai

Supposed to encourage the player to have all his units as a professional troops with good morale (inf around 1800 to 2000 minai, best missile units available, at least 2 best heavy cav with some 2 medium cavalry support)

Cost of infantry never under 1400 minai (excepections made for the same units whom are counted in the yearly setting - like principes, alpine phalanx.....).

Max 2 elites (inf above 2600 – cavalry above 3600)

or

Max 6 lesser elites (inf between 2000-2400)

Factions cant both have 2 elites and some lesser elites inf, but must choose either. Maybe some exception should be made for the cataphracts of the Nomads (so they can field more then 2)

Max 4-6 same unit type (no levy phalangist spam) but about 8-10 max in regard to Legionary cohorts (Post-Marian, Imperial - they can have more mercs to make it up).

General rules regardless of high and Early setting:

Civilized factions:

Max 5 cav (3 heavy), 5 archers.

Nomads:

Max 12 cav, 10 archers/skirmishers (HA included), max 8 infantry


Other possible rules:

High setting will still be 36.000 minai but the Barbarian factions will receive plus 3000-4000 minaii (maybe also Carthage).

[VikingPower]

And to balance it out how some units are ridciously cost effective then the following units must always be upgraded (once):

Alpine phalanx, dacian falxmen (maybe 2 chevrons), polybian principes, polybian triarii, Thracian peltasts, Levy phalangists, Rhaetix axemen, Bosporan archers, Imperial eastern archer auxilia, maybe cretans......

For if these units get more expensive then the player has less money to make other units as powerful.

[Lazy O]

I didnt post them to make me happy. I posted them to bring EB to the attention of the major clans. I had no qualms with the previous rules.

[Burebista]

This looks bad. Old rules rule , just needed a tweak in budgets of greeks/romans and all was fine.
I mean , i loved the sotaroas pickups to accomodate a core of elites , loved the ellie rushes , loved he getai mass drapanai. Those werent Op just great.
in these rules you can't do anything new.

[VikingPower]

The original purpose of these rules was NOT to get them confirmed or to replace the previous rules, but rather to make Lazy O feel better after his previous thread was unsuccesfull.

[Lazy O]

So this counts as spam. As I did not ask for youre help. I asked to close that thread since people did not engage in discussion except Vartan who is always willing to listen. And btw, I count it as a success, because of that, vartan discovered RCC and somehow the thread got the Admins attention

[vartan]

I didnt post them to make me happy. I posted them to bring EB to the attention of the major clans. I had no qualms with the previous rules.

EB Online has one major difference with RTW and that is where loyalties lie. In RTW, I wouldn't be surprised if clans are more abundant than they were in 2007. In EB Online, each man runs his own show. The most obvious reason for this is the low volume we have (even though potential could be high).

So this counts as spam. As I did not ask for youre help. I asked to close that thread since people did not engage in discussion except Vartan who is always willing to listen. And btw, I count it as a success, because of that, vartan discovered RCC and somehow the thread got the Admins attention

Arguably the thread you are referring to got plenty of feedback, even if from a handful of people on the forum. Had more people checked the EB MP forum and replied, I assure you, you would have a more positive view of the situation. I know I would. More feedback is generally better, a good thing. And which admin are you referring to? The YouTuber?

[Lazy O]

Belle. admin at RCC

[vartan]

Belle. Shes admin at RCC

Yep, the YouTuber. That's the one.