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    Default OT: I need a quick Latin Translation...

    I bet someone here could help. I need to know how the phrase 'Now or Never' is written in Latin. I looked at those silly online translators but couldn't get them to work. If anyone knows what it would be your help would be much appreciated. Thanks guys.
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    Default Re: OT: I need a quick Latin Translation...

    Nunc aut numquam.

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    Default Re: OT: I need a quick Latin Translation...

    Quote Originally Posted by abou View Post
    Nunc aut numquam.
    m must be n
    namely :
    nunc aut nunquam
    BTW anyone knows how to pronounce it?

    p.s. I have no latin but a dictionary of latin phrases...
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    Default Re: OT: I need a quick Latin Translation...

    Actually abou is right; numquam comes from ne-umquam (which can also be ne-unquam), but i've never seen nunquam written before... Could be a rare version.

    How it's pronounced? Well, pretty much like it's written. Just remember the c is basically a "k" (like in kill), and the "m" in the end of numquam was barely spoken and trough the nose (much like the french "m")

    EDIT: Of course umquam means anytime, so numquam is never :)
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    The "u" was most likely pronounced as "oo" in "look". Aut has two syllables (a-ut).
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    Default Re: OT: I need a quick Latin Translation...

    nunc aut numquam/nunquam you can choose accoring to internet but in my dictionary i can't find nunquam so i would go for m version. I don't think anybody knows how the romans spoke ,latin is after all a dead language. My guess is that their pronunciation sounded alot like modern italian.
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    Default Re: OT: I need a quick Latin Translation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Lent View Post
    The "u" was most likely pronounced as "oo" in "look". Aut has two syllables (a-ut).
    Gonna have to disagree with this last part, "aut" is only one syllable even though it likes like the word "ut" with an "a" put in front of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anubis88 View Post
    How it's pronounced? Well, pretty much like it's written. Just remember the c is basically a "k" (like in kill), and the "m" in the end of numquam was barely spoken and trough the nose (much like the french "m")
    I'm no ancient Roman, but I think it's safe to say that the Latin letter C represents (almost invariably) an unaspirated voiceless velar stop (i.e., plosive). So that would be the 'k' consonant in the English word skill, because the 'k' in the word kill is the aspirated variant, which isn't what the Latin C represented.
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    Default Re: OT: I need a quick Latin Translation...

    Quote Originally Posted by vartan View Post
    I'm no ancient Roman, but I think it's safe to say that the Latin letter C represents (almost invariably) an unaspirated voiceless velar stop (i.e., plosive). So that would be the 'k' consonant in the English word skill, because the 'k' in the word kill is the aspirated variant, which isn't what the Latin C represented.
    To tell you the thruth, i don't hear the difference between those two "k". Like i said... In the slavic languages we only have one k, and that one is pronounced like the latin one
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    Default Re: OT: I need a quick Latin Translation...

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    numquam and nunquam are equally acceptable. Decent dictionaries would mention both. Eg. Lewis & Short note that numquam prevailed over the latter before the Augustan era, yet both were "in good use".

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    Default Re: OT: I need a quick Latin Translation...

    Really? Disagree with the guy who minored in Latin and is writing the pronunciation guide?

    Anyway, the vowels in nunc and numquam are short. If you want to be classy, you'll use the Classical era spellings. Aut is a single syllable because au is a diphthong.

    Short u is pronounced as it is in put. Short a as it is in hat. The diphthong au is pronounced as the ou in house.

    Nunc aut num'kwam.

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    Default Re: OT: I need a quick Latin Translation...

    The simple guide I have seen most often is this:

    a = as in "ah"
    ae = "eye"
    c = always hard like K
    g = always hard as in "girl"
    i = short as in "pit", or long as in "pizza". When used as a consonant, = Y
    j = not used in proper Latin--represents consonantal i and pronounced as Y
    u = as in "doom" when a vowel, or as W when consonant. Properly written v.
    v = u

    It's not very complex, but I think it gives a rough idea (If I am wrong, correct me.)

    I have also used this YouTube channel quite a bit.
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