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[edyzmedieval]

Well, yes. Norway is more for spamming +1 valor vikings. Sweden is more for top tier troops with iron. The only drawback I find with Sweden as a military base is that it is so valuable economically, and you forfeit economic development for years if you decide to build up its military tech.

True.

Perhaps Denmark in this case? Norway is still the best alternative until Sweden is teched up economically.