Why is OK to harrass mormons?

[HoreTore]

To avoid derailing the electigaddon thread...

Centurion made a comment on Romney, that he was a mormon, and that the mormon faith was "complete bull". And its not just our fellow orgah who does this, the hate other christians have towards mormons is evident whenever Romney is talked about, and is probably his biggest obstacle to becpmming president.

Let's get the basic facts etraight, shall we? The christian faith is based on a burning bush who talked to some guy who had spent years wandering the desert, giving him ten laws that everyone must follow. Of course nobody but him saw the bush.... Some time later, a woman magically becommes pregnant without sexual intercourse. The baby grows up to walk on water and turn water into wine, before dying and then undoing the dying, and finally he flowts to into the sky.

So, this story is believable, logical and plausible. Thus, one should not ridicule people for believing in it.

But that he also made a detour to the americas some years after the events above? Now the story is suddenly laughable and idiotic, and its believers should be ridiculed at every turn.


THAT makes no sense to me. Some people should take a long, hard look in the mirror.

[Strike For The South]

haha, you're drunk

[Centurion1]

its much more than that.

[HoreTore]

its much more than that.

Then by all means, do explain.

Edit: and no strike, I only had the usual two beers with dinner today... The typing errors, if that was what you refer to is due to me not having mastered the iPad's touch keyboard yet.... Speaking of which, could some kind mod add the missing "it" in the title?

[PanzerJaeger]

I thought it was the polygamy.

[Centurion1]

polygamy yeah they've supposedly changed.
odd customs
the innate perfection
the secrecy
the interesting founders story......

Edit: but this thread is just one big bash so it should just be closed now

[HoreTore]

One big bash? Where?

The ridicule of the christian belief was not ridiculing christianity, it was ridiculing the missing logic emplpyed by those who hate the mormons, to illustrate that a Mormons belief isn't more far-fetched than any other christian claim.

Weird founding history? You mean like a virgin giving birth? How much weirder can one get? Honestly?

Take the faith out of christianity and it all falls to pieces. Take the faith out of the mormonism and it all falls to pieces. I see no difference whatsoever between the two and the hate exhibited by those who themselves claim to be hated(by the "liberal media") is astounding.

[Centurion1]

...... virgin birth is actually pretty common in stories throughout history.

[Greyblades]

There's a south park episode about this. Not exactly accurate, or even completely serious, but I think it covers the main criticisms.

[HoreTore]

...... virgin birth is actually pretty common in stories throughout history.

.....and polygamy isn't....?

[Tuuvi]

polygamy yeah they've supposedly changed.
odd customs
the innate perfection
the secrecy
the interesting founders story......

Edit: but this thread is just one big bash so it should just be closed now

Please elaborate I'm interested to hear the details, maybe I can explain stuff, there is a lot of misinformation about the Mormon religion out there.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Because they like having 10 wives.

[HoreTore]

There's a south park episode about this. Not exactly accurate, or even completely serious, but I think it covers the main criticisms.

Why is there no south park episode on the equally "ridiculous" story of the life of jesus christ?

Please elaborate I'm interested to hear the details, maybe I can explain stuff, there is a lot of misinformation about the Mormon religion out there.

By the love of heavens; please do!

[Rahwana]

according to most Christians, you harden your heart, that's why you never understood that.

I knew it, they always talk about that with me.

[Tuuvi]

Because they like having 10 wives.

Haha.

The Mormon church banned polygamy around the year 1900. Also in the years where polygamy was practiced not everyone was polygamous, In the region where I live historically only about 25% of families practiced polygamy.

[Greyblades]

Why is there no south park episode on the equally "ridiculous" story of the life of jesus christ!

*shrug* Because criticizing christianity has been done to death? How should I know?

[drone]

Why is there no south park episode on the equally "ridiculous" story of the life of jesus christ?

No need, JC has his own public access show, and is a recurring character throughout the series.

[lars573]

Because somewhere in the books on the new testament is a bit about how Jesus was the last official prophet of the lord. Anyone who claims otherwise is perpetrating a big ass mortal sin. Anyone who follows said false prophet is also a sinner. Also there is the risk of them being the Anti-Christ*.













*Although to a Christian mind Mohamed and his Islam thing ring more of the Anti-Christ bells than Mormons.

[gaelic cowboy]

To avoid derailing the electigaddon thread...

Centurion made a comment on Romney, that he was a mormon, and that the mormon faith was "complete bull". And its not just our fellow orgah who does this, the hate other christians have towards mormons is evident whenever Romney is talked about, and is probably his biggest obstacle to becpmming president.

Let's get the basic facts etraight, shall we? The christian faith is based on a burning bush who talked to some guy who had spent years wandering the desert, giving him ten laws that everyone must follow. Of course nobody but him saw the bush.... Some time later, a woman magically becommes pregnant without sexual intercourse. The baby grows up to walk on water and turn water into wine, before dying and then undoing the dying, and finally he flowts to into the sky.

So, this story is believable, logical and plausible. Thus, one should not ridicule people for believing in it.

But that he also made a detour to the americas some years after the events above? Now the story is suddenly laughable and idiotic, and its believers should be ridiculed at every turn.


THAT makes no sense to me. Some people should take a long, hard look in the mirror.

I think there miffed at them cos they rewrote the bible or summit, course so did every other denomination, but since it happened ages ago for most of them they can all be sniffy about it.

Rewriting the bible pretty much calls into question there own mad view (insert mad viewpoint) seeing as they cant admit the bible aint litteral they must try to derail mormon candidates.

Because somewhere in the books on the new testament is a bit about how Jesus was the last official prophet of the lord. Anyone who claims otherwise is perpetrating a big ass mortal sin. Anyone who follows said false prophet is also a sinner. Also there is the risk of them being the Anti-Christ*.

Oh and this too

[Major Robert Dump]

People make fun of things that don't mesh with what they believe, and mormons are a minority and therefore an easy target. The planets thing doesn't help their case.

Personally, I love mormons. They make good US troops and are difficult to corrupt with booze and foul language. When the mormon girls come by to witness to me, I always invite them in and try to peek up their skirts by seating them in the short couch. A few have made me want to convert, until I found out they were married.

[miotas]

Weird founding history? You mean like a virgin giving birth? How much weirder can one get?

Maybe Mary was a time traveller from the future who had IVF before travelling to 2000 years ago. The advanced technology of the future provides logical explanations for how all the miracles occured.

[HoreTore]

Maybe Mary was a time traveller from the future who had IVF before travelling to 2000 years ago. The advanced technology of the future provides logical explanations for how all the miracles occured.

Remove the faith, and this one is as logical as "God did it".

Insert faith, however, and "God did it" becomes logical. Just like the case is with the Mormon beliefs.

Its fascinating to see that pure, uncut religious hatred and bigotry determines the outcome of the republican primary.

[Greyblades]

Indeed, allthough its worth pointing out that christianity has 4 different books written by 4 different people saying the same thing, whereas mormons have the copys of one book noone, save for the founder and the 11 witnesses (I think it was eleven), has seen.

[HoreTore]

Indeed, allthough its worth pointing out that christianity has 4 different books written by 4 different people saying the same thing

.....and that somehow makes it any more credible, because.....?

[Greyblades]

Allthough they were written some time afterwards, and one at least was likely a copy of one of the others with bits added or removed, multiple witnesses and written accounts, while not exactly setting in stone (hah), do strengthen the probability of an event being true.

[Centurion1]

and we know jesus was a historical feature hes an actual person

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

To avoid derailing the electigaddon thread...

Centurion made a comment on Romney, that he was a mormon, and that the mormon faith was "complete bull". And its not just our fellow orgah who does this, the hate other christians have towards mormons is evident whenever Romney is talked about, and is probably his biggest obstacle to becpmming president.

Let's get the basic facts etraight, shall we? The christian faith is based on a burning bush who talked to some guy who had spent years wandering the desert, giving him ten laws that everyone must follow. Of course nobody but him saw the bush.... Some time later, a woman magically becommes pregnant without sexual intercourse. The baby grows up to walk on water and turn water into wine, before dying and then undoing the dying, and finally he flowts to into the sky.

So, this story is believable, logical and plausible. Thus, one should not ridicule people for believing in it.

But that he also made a detour to the americas some years after the events above? Now the story is suddenly laughable and idiotic, and its believers should be ridiculed at every turn.


THAT makes no sense to me. Some people should take a long, hard look in the mirror.

If memory serves, and mine usually does, Mormons believe that America is the New Jerusalem, originally populated by the lost Exiles who were then wiped out by the Indians. So there's the inherrent racism. then there's the archaeological nonsense with bronze weapons being used by the Jewish exiles 600 years after they fell pretty much completely out of fashion.

Historical inconsistancies in Christianity certainly exist, but they are much less serious, often geographical errors that demonstrate the writer wasn't native to the region he was describing. There's also the fact that only Smith could see the tablets and yet the Mormons succeeded in translating them to Salt Lake City after his death.

[Beskar]

Don't Mormon's believe they are god's and goddesses, and they get their 'bible' from a buried manuscript from in the ground and that the native americans are the true israelis's, etc.

[a completely inoffensive name]

It's only ok if you are outside their dominion of Utah.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Beskar: in a word, no.

I think MRD has the best answer to the OP question.

CR