By the way just once I'd like to see us get off the ground of epistemic basics and philsci 101, and discuss some real interesting topics like the demarcation problem in concrete and not abstract terms, the constructive side of Popperian though, namely is deductivism and how the idea of science by modus tollens holds up, and of course constructive empiricism and if/how it gives the lovers of science all they want without going to a full blown realism (have you read van Fraassen TS? Good Catholic boy he is). I guess I'll be PMing you sometime later TS, if I want to bounce those kind of ideas off...