Which Clan Will You Play First

[Masaky]

Oda, i shall redo Nobunaga's conquests. i shall conquer all of Japan under the banner of the demon king!

[Liberator]

Takeda!

[Napoleon The Emperor Of Europe]

Takeda

[jean_s]

You should all read Taiko !:)
Oda Nobunaga is probably the best character in the history of Japan. And his Hideyoshi...

[edyzmedieval]

You should all read Taiko !:)
Oda Nobunaga is probably the best character in the history of Japan. And his Hideyoshi...

Brilliant book. I loved it.
Same for Musashi.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Not sure who I'll play first. Anyone have a pic of the map showing the clan starting positions?

[Gregoshi]

You should all read Taiko !:)

Funny, I was just eye up my copy on the shelf this morning thinking it might be a good time to re-read it.

[Liberator]

Not sure who I'll play first. Anyone have a pic of the map showing the clan starting positions?

You can look at the starting positions in the encyclopedia of the Demo.
And those who played the first Shogun can easily guess them

[gollum]

If i buy the game i will play Uesugi first. Their banner is the chinese character (kanji) for "Bi", which is the initial syllable for Bishamonten (毘沙門), the Buddhist god of war.

Uesugi Kenshin (aka Nagao Kagetora in his pre-Buddhist monk days) was the most famous of the Uesugi Daimyo during the Sengoku period, who due to his martial prowess and generalship skill was believed as an incarnation of Bishamonten. He was quite a character and fought two of the most interesting, bloody and monumental battles of the period, the 4th battle of Kawanakajima against Takeda Shinge's forces and the battle of the Tedorigawa river against Oda Nobunaga.

Interestingly the battles were similar on the reverse.

[phred]

Not sure who I'll play first. Anyone have a pic of the map showing the clan starting positions?

Samurai Archives has some fun historical maps for browsing.
http://www.samurai-archives.com/maphome.html

[Doug-Thompson]

Takeda, because I read somewhere it has the best cavalry.

[gollum]

Yeah, it will certainly have in the game as it historically did.

[Gregoshi]

Takeda has had an incredible surge in the later stages of the voting and dominates the poll...as it should be (I added that last bit for you Takeda fans )

[gollum]

Funnily enough the Tokugawa are very unpopular...

I think they should make a good game, sandwitched between teh Oda and teh Imagawa and being pretty much destined to fight multifront wars.

[Cecil XIX]

Funnily enough the Tokugawa are very unpopular...

I think they should make a good game, sandwitched between teh Oda and teh Imagawa and being pretty much destined to fight multifront wars.

Rather then playing the winner, I think most people prefer to pick clans that historically weren't able to achieve supremacy. I will play as the Uesugi, and I intend to hoist the twin banners of Justice and Love across Japan.

[gollum]

The incredible thing with the Tokugawa is that they were pretty unlikely winners in history.

They went through some pretty hard times, and some very unexpected reversals in areas they had no way to influence helped them, like the battle of Okehazama that dettached them from the Imagawa, the sudden and untimely death of Takeda Shingen that may well have beaten the Oda/Tokugawa alliance and either incorporated the Tokugawa in his vassals or wiping them out in his march to Kyoto and of course the assassination of Oda Nobunaga that made succession an issue in the Oda clan allowing Tokugawa Ieyasu the chance to step in and eventually achieve complete supremacy.

But yes, you are right i guess in what you say. In addition it seems that for some reason the Takeda enjoy lots of popularity. It could be because they figure out in the intro video too.

[Gregoshi]

It's the cavalry gollum. It has to be the horses that make Takeda so popular - that and the Shingen "what-if" aspect.

[andrewt]

Funnily enough the Tokugawa are very unpopular...

I think they should make a good game, sandwitched between teh Oda and teh Imagawa and being pretty much destined to fight multifront wars.

They have, to me, the crappiest bonus out of all the clans. CA gave them the Imagawa ability from Shogun 1. I would actually find them interesting if they have an interesting ability.

[gollum]

Yes, probably Gregoshi; cavalry has always attraction due to grace and power.

They have, to me, the crappiest bonus out of all the clans.

Having not very advantageous abilities can make them interesting in itself, as you have to play better than the others on the battlefield to counter. On the other hand we don't know how the political aspects will play and how much the agents will count there. It mught be that actually you can have fun in the game-within-the-game of politics. Are there inheritences in S2 like in STW?

[Furunculus]

is there a wikia that lists the starting position and advantages of each clan?

[Zarky]

is there a wikia that lists the starting position and advantages of each clan?

The in game encyclopaedia lists all playable clan bonuses and starting locations, you can also look at the map to find out nearby province specialities.

[Furunculus]

cheers.

[drone]

is there a wikia that lists the starting position and advantages of each clan?

We are working on it, help and contributions would be appreciated.

https://forums.totalwar.org/wiki/ind.../Category:TWS2

[gollum]

maybe a link of it in the guides forum sticky, here in the tea house may make it more visible drone.

[al Roumi]

Date or Shimazu, leaning towards Date however - Charging out of the North of Honshu with a Van of NoDachi will be FUN.

The Uesugi are tempting, although their starting position looks only slightly pereferable to the southerners. Somethingt hat might be fun is to play Christian Shimazu... Swords and gunpowder?

[Napoleon The Emperor Of Europe]

Date or Shimazu, leaning towards Date however - Charging out of the North of Honshu with a Van of NoDachi will be FUN.

The Uesugi are tempting, although their starting position looks only slightly pereferable to the southerners. Somethingt hat might be fun is to play Christian Shimazu... Swords and gunpowder?

Nah,The Takeda are the most popular faction,so they've been blessed a lot,with superior cavarly and good infantry,they are perfect for becoming Shogun of Japan.

[al Roumi]

Nah,The Takeda are the most popular faction,so they've been blessed a lot,with superior cavarly and good infantry,they are perfect for becoming Shogun of Japan.

They bloody need an advantage like that given their starting location...

[gollum]

So it seems al Roumi, they definitely need it :)

Date sounds good from that perspective.

[Napoleon The Emperor Of Europe]

They bloody need an advantage like that given their starting location...

Their location is pefect for players like me.There are opposing armies to the north,and some wherre i think...But you must defeat them first,by gaining the new provinces you conqer.

[Squints]

I'm playing as Date. I allied with the green clan that starts next to you, and wiped out the red one. It kinda sucks that you hafta kill your brother at the beginning of the campaign, but whatever. My allies are my buffer for any invasion; I just march through them and expand elsewhere.