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    Question Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    Just watched The King's Speech.
    Now ordinarily I'm quite confident of how I pronounce words, and luckily my accent is more neutral than most people here.....
    So how does one pronounce ma'am? Like ham or like palm?
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    Default Re: Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    I pronounce it sounding like ham. I personally have never heard it sounding like palm, but perhaps elsewhere it might. I would prefer to say 'miss' though, whether she married or not.
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    Default Re: Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    I say ham and palm the same way... although that may be due to the fact that Scottish people have quite a harsh sounding 'a'.
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    Like ham over here in Californaiyay.
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    I would say like ham....but I am in the midwest, so....
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    Ham on the US east coast/south.
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    Default Re: Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    It is ham.

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    Default Re: Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    You mean you don't say it like "up yours, lady!" ?

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    Default Re: Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    Thats an odd username change.
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    Default Re: Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    So how does one pronounce ma'am? Like ham or like palm?
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    I can't speak for any others but as a northern Englishman when I address my mother I call her mam, which rhymes with ham. However were I ever to encounter Brenda, then I would address her as ma'am, which rhymes with palm.

    A lot of it is to do with where you're from and so depends on your accent.
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    Default Re: Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    I've been pronouncing it as 'ham'...but, I've actually heard some English actors pronounce it differently. And it sounds...sort of..cooler...as 'palm'.


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    Ma'am as in


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    Default Re: Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    yes. Ma'am as in ham/spam.

    the only time I've heard it as "palm" is in the new Halo. and I was wondering if he just said what I thought he said.
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    No it's pronounced like maulk.


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    Default Re: Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    If one is addressing Her Majesty, then one uses the long vowel sound. Since it is her English, there is no alternative.

    However, what the pronunciation might be in American, I have no idea, as I do not speak the language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost View Post
    If one is addressing Her Majesty, then one uses the long vowel sound. Since it is her English, there is no alternative. ...
    Interesting, so when addressing the Queen specifically, it rhymes with "palm?" Or "mom?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Togakure View Post
    Interesting, so when addressing the Queen specifically, it rhymes with "palm?" Or "mom?"
    Protocol advises that one starts any conversation by addressing the Queen as "Your Majesty" and each subsequent time with Ma'am. Pronounced "maarm".
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    Default Re: Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    Over in Tennessee Appalachia, protocol advises that one starts a conversation by pronouncing Ma'am like so.
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    Default Re: Ma'am as in ham or palm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost View Post
    Protocol advises that one starts any conversation by addressing the Queen as "Your Majesty" and each subsequent time with Ma'am. Pronounced "maarm".
    Wrong way round - it's specifically Ma'am as in Ham, not the long vowel. As any phule no, Ma'am is a contraction of Madam, hence "ham".

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