Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
It is absolutely necessary for people to go back beyond that point, because only then will they realise that Christianity is not an arbitrary set of rules on a piece of paper, but rather it is the natural, self-evident religion for all mankind, and is written on mens' hearts as Paul himself says.

You talk about the "organization established by Christ", but what organisation is that? He never set up an earthly religious system, although he abolished an existing one. But the law of Moses was always separate from the law of Christ. It was a shadow of it, not a predecessor that was replaced in 33AD.

There is no new faith or religious system, just the same one that's been around since the time of Adam.
A very Mormon view you have there...

It can't be denied that an organisation was established in the meridian of time. It has been a long tradition that the christian church started at the day of Pentecost. But as it is an appeal to tradition - I can't really use it can I?
Since you are ignoring the obvious with your comment: "He never set up an earthly religious system", I have to wonder what you perceive as an religious organisation/system.
The New Testament refers 114 times to a church. The Gospels, Acts and letters refers to several instances of people being given offices (apostles, prophets, teachers, elders, pastors, evangelists, bishops, priests and deacons). If this is not talking about an organized religious system, I am curious of what your thoughts are.

Talking about the church of Adam is pointless as there is nothing documenting this. That is, within the canon. As anything outside it would be irrelevant right?
If you would consider extra-canonical literature - I would be happy to show you a few more.