The Pushing Match

[vartan]

400,000 YA? Wow. That may very well precede the use of fire, if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for the paper.

[jirisys]

400,000 YA? Wow. That may very well precede the use of fire, if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for the paper.

Use of fire was very late (especially by us). I remember I read in a book that the Homo Erectus already used stone tools and fire. And that was around 30k years ago (number might be wrong).

~Jirisys ()

[saka-rauka1]

And effective, tools do not get used for as long as the spear has without being good at what they do.

It's different when shields enter the equation.

[bobbin]

Yes and how long have the two coexisted? 4 or 5 millenia? A shield may reduce the effectiveness of a spear but it doesn't render it useless.

[saka-rauka1]

Okay I'll admit I very quickly turned to hyperbole.

Do we not agree that a shield user has the advantage?

[vartan]

Do we not agree that a shield user has the advantage?

No, we do not agree, for the simple reason that the opponent has a shield as well.

[jirisys]

No, we do not agree, for the simple reason that the opponent has a shield as well.

Training and the fact that they have different brains, means even if they are virtually the same, one of them will eventually win.

~Jirisys ()