Getting recommunicated

**Gilrandir** · 05-02-2011, 11:10

Now I see. Are these 50% counted judging from the number of provinces you have? And you can safely attack any larger or same-size faction?

**drone** · 05-02-2011, 15:31

I believe it's provinces. You can only get 1 warning at a time, so one trick is to attack a third small faction, get warned, and withdraw, then just bulldoze the other small faction you really wanted out of the way! As long as you can finish them off before the first warning expires, the pope doesn't care.

**cogre** · 05-02-2011, 20:17

Originally Posted by drone

I believe it's provinces. You can only get 1 warning at a time, so one trick is to attack a third small faction, get warned, and withdraw, then just bulldoze the other small faction you really wanted out of the way! As long as you can finish them off before the first warning expires, the pope doesn't care.

never thought of that. dang i am still learning this game.

**Brandy Blue** · 05-03-2011, 02:13

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

And you can safely attack any larger or same-size faction?

Yes and no. You can attack a large enough faction without an excomm warning, but if you keep taking provinces, then eventually your target will be small enough for you to get an excomm warning.

BTW a trick you can use on small factions is to capture all provinces in one turn, and storm and capture all castles next turn. If you can pull that off then the Pope has to accept it as a fait accompli.

**cogre** · 05-03-2011, 14:44

now that one i have done, and like to think, i have perfected it....*tongue stuck firmly in cheek*

**gaijinalways** · 05-07-2011, 12:40

Yes, it is a useful tactic, to attack one faction in hopes of punishing another. Sometimes it's started by someone else. I have had games where I was attacked, and then warned not to attack the smaller nation after defending myself! Of course, if two factions attacked me, only one intializes the warning, so guess who gets to feel my wrath?

**I of the Storm** · 05-09-2011, 14:27

On a sidenote, I just found out that the death of the pope not only lifts excomms but deletes given warnings as well. I've yet to repeat this, but I've recently received a warning for the same faction twice well within the 10 years, and there was a dead pope involved.

**Gilrandir** · 05-10-2011, 13:35

Originally Posted by I of the Storm

On a sidenote, I just found out that the death of the pope not only lifts excomms but deletes given warnings as well. I've yet to repeat this, but I've recently received a warning for the same faction twice well within the 10 years, and there was a dead pope involved.

I had a warning, then the pope died, then I attacked again and got excommed without any warning. And receiving the double warning is quite usual. So, to sum it up, excom is sometimes arbitrary and wayward.

**gollum** · 05-10-2011, 13:39

Gilrandir, you say you play now version 2.0. Try upgrading to v2.1 it solves quite a few issues more and its really worth it. Overall MTV/VI v2.1 is probably the most completed, left at best state TW game to date i think.