[EB] Whats Wrong?

[-Stormrage-]

an example of the above statement would be : Saba were Never meant to Fight Romans. like wise , Barbs were never meant to play with Steppe (Due to their lack of armor). I suggest you should Avoid Steppe players *cough* Lazyo *cough* at all costs,that is if you dont have the guts to face them.

[vartan]

Not necessarily. See Getae/Sauromatae and Augustus' campaigns into Arabia against the Sabaeans.

[gamegeek2]

Getai are probably the only barbarian faction that can take on the steppes.

Well, that's a fatuous argument. If you're too impatient to fight against steppe armies, then chances are you won't have any fun fighting against steppe armies. Why should anyone be forced to fight a battle they won't enjoy just because... uh... someone else wants you to?

No one is trying to rob steppe players from their opportunity of having fun, but you are trying to guilt trip players to fight battles they don't enjoy playing. If someone doesn't want to play against a steppe army, then that's fine. He doesn't have to, so respect that decision. If no one else wants to play against a steppe army either, then that sucks for the guy playing steppe, but c'est la vie.

I would actually prefer a Swiss system, but that would take a long time to organize, and people aren't always available. Lacking such a system, I intend to name and shame people who won't steppe outside their comfort zone, especially for impatient people - or people who just never try. I don't know about LazyO but personally I want to play against every faction (well not western barbarians necessarily), to test my own skills and the strengths of the steppes against the best everyone has to field, and I find people who take such attitudes extremely frustrating.

[Kival]

I would not discourage to use steppe at all but one should not hope for a barbarian faction to fight six times against you only to loose. I've a general "homerule" not to play against a player in tourney anymore if one got 2 (or perhaps 3) points out of this matches.

Not all matchups were meant to be. Simple as, if you ask me. There's only so much you can do, because this entire issue is like most: it's like a hydra. You fix one spot, ten other issues arise.

I do not have a problem with it. It's just a fact. One could consider not to allow steppe vs barbarians but that could be quite harsh so I would not really propose it. If one wants to play more often against a player refusing to play against steppe anymore, he could fight non-steppe. I don't see the problem. Is any player here who had problems to get some matches in this tourney so far? If it is just about some changes for horse archers... one can propose them in the edu-thread. If one has viable points I think it will be changed accordingly.

Getai are probably the only barbarian faction that can take on the steppes.

They can use steppe themselves and have some trustworthy archers, so that's not really suprising.

[gamegeek2]

I would not discourage to use steppe at all but one should not hope for a barbarian faction to fight six times against you only to loose. I've a general "homerule" not to play against a player in tourney anymore if one got 2 (or perhaps 3) points out of this matches.

Same thing, unless the other player loses and wants to keep trying :)

I deliberately choose non-steppe against Western barbarians. It's almost a matter of historicality to me, sort of like roleplaying when Attila the Hun and his many infantry from his Germanic allies invaded Western Europe.

[vartan]

Historicity*

[-Stormrage-]

just to change the subject, whens EB: NOM coming out?

[gamegeek2]

We aim to have an alpha like the Nusantara alpha by December.