Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
I likes the second paragraph Infrastructure is investment in generating equity. This is whats governments should be doing with our money. Digitization of communications, roadways, high speed rail. Yet we put the majority of money into non equity generating projects. Things like social security, Medicare, general welfare. Things that keep unproductive members of society alive longer and consume equity. Sure, there is a benefit, but it has gone beyond a sensible balance. We should use social security as a compassionate device, not what it has become; a vehicle for fat and rich early retirees to do nothing for the rest of their miserable, burdensome and long lives. It should be used to provide for people who would otherwise die.
I can garuntee you that is not how social security being used

Your post is indicative of the larger problem. Certainly the US has debt problem but it is by no means insurmountable, it really wouldn't even be that painful to implent some of the wilder democratic schemes. However the debt ceiling has now become the pulpit from which the right wing tea kettle begins to boil over. The fact we can't come to an agreement on the debt ceiling is not a sign we have spent to much, it is only a sign people who have no idea what they are talking about have somehow grabbed the rudder of political debate in this country. I am even hesitant to call it debate at this point more like a drunken, backwoods game of chicken.

Obama has basically given the GOP everything and it still isn't good enough. at any other time during the lasty 50 years this would've been a great political victory but the problem now is two fold. Boehner and some of the other GOP have caricutered Obama to the point where any deal with him is tantamount to treason. The more moderate and sensible GOP is being held hostage by Ayn Rand fanboys and pissed off white people who don't really understand what it is there mad about, they just know it has something to do with money.

The problem is the tea party has no real ideas. The faux libertarinism they propagate will not work for the worlds sole hyperpower populated by 300,000,000 people. I'm willing to listen to cuts, I want their to be cuts. But don't tell me NO soley based on some shaky idelogical bullet points. Don't drive us into the ground simply becuase you need to dance with the girl that brung ya.

Boehner has not been shrewd, he is being held at gunpoint by nutjobs


don't hate Obama, he's been doing a pretty decent job, given the circumstances. I think quite a few people don't like what the united states has become. We've doused ourselves in gasoline and given the match to those same people. You live once, im curious to see what will happen when we default or force a restructuring. We still have some semblance of infrastructure and a large workforce. People should be working for half of their current wages. And they will, once the federal government gets furloughed for a few years. It is time to play hardball with the american laxplayer.Sell your houses, turn off your tvs and lose some weight. You want fair completion in the global economy? Prepare to meet the global worker on their level.
What have we become? A country that sold out the middle class to the 1% of America that can donate infinty money to politics? Why should people be working for half the current wages? What happens if you work for half your current wages based on some arbatrariy talking point?

America destroys the third world in every measure of economic devolpment that's why (wait for it) We're a 1st world country. The problem is we aren't taxed high enough and we spend to much, both things which are eaisly rectafaible

This does not have to be some end of the line wake up call that sends us into anarchy

I must ask, Where are all the adults?