Support for Gun Control in US at its Lowest Level in More than 50 Years

[Crazed Rabbit]

More on ATF's "Fast and Furious" program - they encouraged sales of guns to suspect people, then used said sales in a push for greater gun regulations.

Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation "Fast and Furious" to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.

PICTURES: ATF "Gunwalking" scandal timeline
In Fast and Furious, ATF secretly encouraged gun dealers to sell to suspected traffickers for Mexican drug cartels to go after the "big fish." But ATF whistleblowers told CBS News and Congress it was a dangerous practice called "gunwalking," and it put thousands of weapons on the street. Many were used in violent crimes in Mexico. Two were found at the murder scene of a U.S. Border Patrol agent.

ATF officials didn't intend to publicly disclose their own role in letting Mexican cartels obtain the weapons, but emails show they discussed using the sales, including sales encouraged by ATF, to justify a new gun regulation called "Demand Letter 3". That would require some U.S. gun shops to report the sale of multiple rifles or "long guns." Demand Letter 3 was so named because it would be the third ATF program demanding gun dealers report tracing information.

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[PanzerJaeger]

More on ATF's "Fast and Furious" program - they encouraged sales of guns to suspect people, then used said sales in a push for greater gun regulations.



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It's funny, that theory has been circulating around gun forums and blogs since F&F broke and has been met with a lot of disbelief. 'Sure the administration seriously fuddled itself, but there is no way this was a false flag op. Those only happen in the movies.' Guess not.

Jack booted thugs, indeed.

[drone]

At this point, the ATF is so dysfunctional it just needs to be disbanded. The Director position is a revolving door of acting personnel, their old revenue collection role for booze and tobacco was removed when the ATF shifted to DoJ, and their reputation is in shambles. Just roll their responsibilities into the FBI and DEA and be done with it.

[drone]

Enough acronyms! I demand an organization that will have a name short and easy-enough-on-the-tongue to be comfortable spoken in two or three syllables, without any confusion!

Like, the "Action Group" or something.

They could just make "Jack Booted Thugs" official.

[drone]

Revenuers. Where I come from, people already call them that.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Rep. James Sensenbrenner asked Holder: “Tell me what's the difference between lying and misleading Congress, in this context?”

Holder's response is a bit Clintonian. “Well, if you want to have this legal conversation, it all has to do with your state of mind and whether or not you had the requisite intent to come up with something that would be considered perjury or a lie," Holder said. "The information that was provided by the February 4th letter was gleaned by the people who drafted the letter after they interacted with people who they thought were in the best position to have the information.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...nd_611731.html

I guess we have to employ vast swathes of malicious idiots somehow, and what better than the federal government?

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[Hosakawa Tito]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...nd_611731.html

I guess we have to employ vast swathes of malicious idiots somehow, and what better than the federal government?

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So according to Holder, Jerry Sandusky didn't rape those boys because he didn't intend to abuse them, he loved them and they loved him, they begged for it.

Eric Holder, the attorney general -- number one law enforcement officer in the country -- sent letters and documents to Congress filled with lies. They were part of a cover-up, and Holder hasn't given up on that. Obama's attorney general is participating in a scheme to undermine gun laws, a scheme to undermine the Second Amendment. The attorney general of this country and the president are participating in a scheme to undermine the Constitution of the United States.

They make the Nixon administration look like pikers. Nixon could only dream about getting away with this kind of corruption because unlike the Obama regime he didn't have the media covering up for him. This is an impeachable offense and Holder & Obama should be brought up on charges.