A New Take on CFK vs. JHI

[drone]

With the cav v inf tests, how were the units controlled? Did the cav charge the infantry?

[FinalLegendZero]

Yes. I found that when I had the infantry charge, the AI would have the cavalry pull back at random intervals (probably planning another charge), but would be hit from behind by the pursuing infantry, so those results had to be discredited.

[drone]

If the cavalry are charging, then I would suggest replacing the cav units for the light and medium tests to match the 8 charge value of the Lancers. It would at least factor out some of the differences.

(stats are Charge/Attack/Defense/Armour/Morale)
Light Cavalry - Steppe Cav 6/2/1/3/0, Mounted Sergeants 8/2/2/3/2

Medium Cavalry - Ghulams 6/3/3/4/4, Polish Retainers 8/3/3/4/4, Armenian HC 8/3/3/4/4

The results with the Lancers is somewhat surprising. Lancers are awesome, so it's not that they won a lot, but that the JHI performed better than the CFK. Was this a 40 man CFK unit?

[FinalLegendZero]

Yes, it was 40 man. I'm trying to leave the units in their default size since they'd, at best, be in those conditions in an actual battle. I'll be back with calcs on Mounted Sergeants and Armenian HC.

[FinalLegendZero]

The new calcs are in! In some of these rounds, the cavalry general often died before a natural route. I'll note these occasions within their own case.

VG vs. MS: VG wins with 45-50 men routing 7-20 Sergeants

GFK vs. MS: GFK wins with 25-38 men routing 8-20 Sergeants

CFK vs. MS: CFK wins with 34-39 men routing 15-25 Sergeants

JHI vs. MS: JHI wins with 52-58 men left and the Sergeants routing at ~10 unless the general dies first.

VG vs. AHC: VG win, ~40 to 5 unless the cavalry general dies

GFK vs. AHC: GFK win with 25-35 men routing 3-11 cavalry

CFK vs. AHC: CFK win with 34-38 men routing 10-15 cavalry

JHI vs. AHC: JHI win with 45-55 men routing 7-15 cavalry unless the cavalry general dies first.

So the GFK and VG still aren't too far behind the CFK or JHI in cavalry-killing capabilities.

[drone]

So if I'm reading the results correctly:

Stats with the cav polearm bonus: JHI (4/8/4/3/8, 60 men), CFK (2/7/7/5/8, 40 men), VG (4/4/5/4/6, 60 men), GFK (4/5/6/6/8, 40 men)
Against cavalry, JHI > CFK (probably due to the unit size), CFK > VG (better defence/armour and polearm bonus overcomes unit size diff), and VG > GFK (no polearm bonus, better stats can't overcome unit size diff).


Results from head to head: VG (4/4/5/4/6, 60 men) > GFK (4/5/6/6/8, 40 men) > JHI (4/5/3/3/8, 60 men) > CFK (2/4/6/5/8, 40 men). Who charged who in the infantry v infantry tests?

[Gilrandir]

I may be mistaken, but it seems to me you miss an important thing - difficulty level. Again I may be wrong, but I believe that the same mini-battle would yield different results if you play on hard or expert as the AI gets a special bonus on these difficulties.