2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Lemur]

Panthers 21 Redskins 13

Interesting that the last time an election broke the Redskin rule was the last mid-term presidential election. Spoooooooky!

[Hooahguy]

Interesting that the last time an election broke the Redskin rule was the last mid-term presidential election. Spoooooooky!

Yeah but didnt they revise the rule to say that if the incumbent president loses the popular vote but still wins the next election prediction is flipped? Regardless, Obama won the popular vote last election so it wont matter. Im eager to see who wins really only for this rule, plus the University of Colorado report a few months ago which said that Romney would win.

[ajaxfetish]

Some more possible prediction tools: http://xkcd.com/1122/.

Ajax

[Strike For The South]

1	Sun, Sep 9	@ New Orleans	W 40-32	Griffin III 320	Morris 96	Garcon 109
2	Sun, Sep 16	@ St. Louis	L 31-28	Griffin III 206	Morris 89	Hankerson 68
3	Sun, Sep 23	vs Cincinnati	L 38-31	Griffin III 221	Morris 78	Davis 90
4	Sun, Sep 30	@ Tampa Bay	W 24-22	Griffin III 323	Morris 113	Davis 70
5	Sun, Oct 7	vs Atlanta	L 24-17	Cousins 111	Morris 115	Moss 80
6	Sun, Oct 14	vs Minnesota	W 38-26	Griffin III 182	Griffin III 138	Moss Davis 46
7	Sun, Oct 21	@ New York	L 27-23	Griffin III 258	Morris 120	Paulsen 76
8	Sun, Oct 28	@ Pittsburgh	L 27-12	Griffin III 177	Morris 59	Morgan 46
9	Sun, Nov 4	vs Carolina	L 21-13	Griffin III 215	Morris 76	Paulsen 59

[Lemur]

God help me, I love the American voter. I really do.

Canvassing in Allentown, PA today, I met a young white woman coming out of her apartment, lighting up a cigarette. [...] Then she pointed to her forearm and said, "what about that chip?"

I had heard this once before. A Hispanic girl of about 13, translating for her mother who remained far from the door, asked us whether Obama was going to put a chip in everyone's arm through which we could be controlled. I asked one of the district coordinators about this, and she said they had heard the tale occasionally, and thought one of the churches was spreading the rumor (she may have said a Seventh Day Adventist church, or that may be my memory embellishing).

I just looked up "obama care chip in arm" and found a 5-minute YouTube clip narrated by a professed Ron Paul acolyte: Obamacare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in All Americans by March 23, 2013? It begins with a mock commercial in which vaguely zombie-ish dupes speak enthusiastically of having their medical conditions effectively monitored by the wonderful device. Then comes an earnest, wonkish sounding young man with the inside story: the ACA mandates that an RFID chip be implanted in each of us. Your bank account will be linked to it; it will have a GPS, so the government knows where you are all the time, as well as your whole medical history. It will enable the government to track all of us illegally; there will be no 4th amendment any more, etc etc. And the ACA mandates that all American citizens have this chip implanted by March 23, 2013. He then reads off ominous-sounding language, allegedly from the ACA pp 1000-1008 (who reads a 2000-page bill, he asks near the end) establishing a medical device registry.

Even on the face of it, the quoted language sounds like exactly what it is: a registry of existing medical devices for the purpose of tracking effectiveness. In any case, the registry is not in the ACA; it was included in a version of the bill that did not pass. Snopes.com has a complete debunk. And as a quick Google search demonstrates, this fever dream is connected with End of Days fantasies; the chip is the mark of the beast.

As Snopes points out, these rumors have been kicking around since the days of Hillarycare; more broadly, rumors of government implants "have been around just about as long as microchips have." Still, it's disturbing that these smears are having a noticeable effect.

[Strike For The South]

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[drone]

1	Sun, Sep 9	@ New Orleans	W 40-32	Griffin III 320	Morris 96	Garcon 109
2	Sun, Sep 16	@ St. Louis	L 31-28	Griffin III 206	Morris 89	Hankerson 68
3	Sun, Sep 23	vs Cincinnati	L 38-31	Griffin III 221	Morris 78	Davis 90
4	Sun, Sep 30	@ Tampa Bay	W 24-22	Griffin III 323	Morris 113	Davis 70
5	Sun, Oct 7	vs Atlanta	L 24-17	Cousins 111	Morris 115	Moss 80
6	Sun, Oct 14	vs Minnesota	W 38-26	Griffin III 182	Griffin III 138	Moss Davis 46
7	Sun, Oct 21	@ New York	L 27-23	Griffin III 258	Morris 120	Paulsen 76
8	Sun, Oct 28	@ Pittsburgh	L 27-12	Griffin III 177	Morris 59	Morgan 46
9	Sun, Nov 4	vs Carolina	L 21-13	Griffin III 215	Morris 76	Paulsen 59

The mediocre performance of the Skins is a matter of public record, now you are just rubbing it in.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Legalize drugs, abolish the civil institution of marriage, illegalize abortion, an armory in every household, lower all taxes and cut spending. If any of you can agree to any of these basic ideas, lets form a political party.

First things first, lets encourage our States to allot electors by popular vote. This will benefit everyone and take us from being a nation with one of the lowest turnout and political involvement of citizens and bring us to the top.

[Beskar]

I have to admit, I would be kind of scared if Mitt Romney gets elected.

[Hooahguy]

Half of that seems like sarcasm, the other half seems deadly serious. Interesting.

[Hooahguy]

As a Libertarian myself, I cannot agree that the FBI and all those other "fascist" organizations be disbanded, especially the FBI. Argue all you want about the CIA and NSA, but I firmly believe that we need at least the FBI. I would go much more into this but this isnt the thread for it. They need to be reformed to stop infringing on our private lives, but we need a centralized law enforcement agency that has jurisdiction throughout the US.

As for taxing the crap out of the rich, there is no point. If there was a policy like that here and I was rich, Id just send all my money away somewhere it wouldnt be taxed. That or I would stay at my medium-low paying job and never look to advance. Because why work hard if theres no reward to do so? You cannot punish success or there wont be any. Granted, before we take the radical step and tax the wealthy to oblivion, we should close the tax loopholes and see what happens then.

I agree that the government shouldnt be interfering with our private lives, but the general responsibilities of a government need to apply. Like FEMA. And other stuff like that.