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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    Ah yes of course because republican ideals revolve completely and utterly around allowing the Constitution to be altered. Interesting you used Mr. Jefferson who was essentially the father of Americans States rights and small central government.... whose principles does that mirror??? Ah yes the GOP.
    Except it doesn't, unless doing so helps them. This is the delusion that you need to crack. States rights become important for the GOP, until they are in power on the Federal level. Tell me again why Ron Paul and his young libertarians are isolated and delegated as resident "crackpots" by the GOP leadership and mainstream. I can think of no one else more in favor of states rights and following a narrow view of the Constitution.

    Such gems as

    The democracy will cease to exist
    when you take away from those
    who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
    This is not a Jefferson quote, it does not appear in his works.
    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_...#Misattributed
    It is incumbent on every
    generation to pay its own debts as it goes.
    A principle which if acted on would save
    one-half the wars of the world.
    You act as if the GOP are the only ones who care about the debt. Yawn.

    My reading of history convinces me
    that most bad government results from too much
    government.
    My research tells me that this is not a Jefferson quote either.
    http://www.monticello.org/site/jeffe...ment-quotation

    No free man shall ever be debarred
    the use of arms.
    You forgot the end of that quote, the most important part. "...within his own lands."

    Very impressed with your go at trying to humiliate me though.
    Are you impressed with my second go? Knocking 2.5 out of 4 is pretty good.

    2. Political thought has been through some changes of course.... did I say they were mirror images of each other though? No, I said they were in line. There are differences and alterations of course.
    More differences than similarities. Either way, no one advocates for a non republican style of government any more than libertarians advocate for no taxation.

    The GOP is not inspired or following the line of republican ideals. They are following the money. Same as every politician.

    3. Well we went over what I think of drawing individual quotes and the overall message Thomas Jefferson would likely have wished for America.
    Doesn't mean the ideal have changed.
    No we didn't because you can't even give real quotes from the man. You just hear pretty words from some internet liar on the other side of the country and it made you more than happy to dig no deeper.


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