2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Sasaki Kojiro]

[rvg]

Gah. Gutless.

[Greyblades]

So... What does that mean to the uninitiated?

[rvg]

So... What does that mean to the uninitiated?

It means that the Dems now recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Mitt Romney would be proud.

[Memnon]

I believe it means that the Democrats have now taken the same "stand with Israel" position that the Republicans have, in a reversal of their earlier reversal. Is that really how they do that? That seemed more like how to get kindergartners to choose what they wanted for lunch than how to decide the fate of nations.

[Hooahguy]

I believe it means that the Democrats have now taken the same "stand with Israel" position that the Republicans have, in a reversal of their earlier reversal. Is that really how they do that? That seemed more like how to get kindergartners to choose what they wanted for lunch than how to decide the fate of nations.

Agreed. The turnout seemed pitiful. The arena seemed almost half empty. And they voted by "aye" and "nay"? Seriously? Isnt there some sort of better way? The vote seemed very close judging by the number of voices. Plus the shots of the arab voters was funny. You could see the desperation in their eyes.
Guess that means they lost some voters.

[Xiahou]

Agreed. The turnout seemed pitiful. The arena seemed almost half empty. And they voted by "aye" and "nay"? Seriously? Isnt there some sort of better way? The vote seemed very close judging by the number of voices. Plus the shots of the arab voters was funny. You could see the desperation in their eyes.
Guess that means they lost some voters.

They would've likely lost more by not changing the platform- that's why they were willing to run roughshod over their own rules to do it.

I think what's most interesting is that in light of the closeness of the vote (and the likelihood that the nays actually won), the removal of the phrases in 2012 that were in the platform in 2008 was no accident or oversight- but deliberate. It's too bad the party leaders didn't have the courage to stick to their decisions. The more daylight we can put between the two parties, the more of a choice we have.

[Hooahguy]

The more daylight we can put between the two parties, the more of a choice we have.

Agreed. South Park pretty much hit the nail on the head on this topic a while back.

[HopAlongBunny]

- that's why they were willing to run roughshod over their own rules to do it.

That was disgusting. The issue has its own debate, but to have a "vote" and then simply interpret it as "whatever I want it to say" is complete fail.

[Major Robert Dump]

They should vote on everything that way

Also I am tired of hearing 4.5 million

They should say "oodles" instead

Or, more hotdogs than Christie could eat

[drone]

So... What does that mean to the uninitiated?

"Bow to your AIPAC masters! Bow I say!"

[Hooahguy]

Im going to guess that the Dems are trying to court the Jewish vote, while leaving the Muslims and Atheists in the dust. Which is interesting because according to a Pew report Jews are only 1.7% while Muslims are 0.6%. Which on paper isnt much, but combine that with Atheists and Agnostics which they also alienated, that equals over 4%. Granted, its old, but the info is still pertinent, Id say. If anything the number of Atheists have grown.

Plus they cant even guarantee all the Jewish vote with that platform change since the GOP been holding that since I can remember, so this just looks fake.

Stupid, stupid.

[PanzerJaeger]

It's more about the Christian vote.

[Hooahguy]

It's more about the Christian vote.

True, but if that really was an issue for Christian voters they would be voting for Romney by default.

[a completely inoffensive name]

The convention behaved like a convention is supposed to, to hammer out the final policy and the final candidate, and people then call them weak. I guess we are at the stage where unless you have your candidate and policies all chosen 2 years before the election, you look weak.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Beautiful. I'm happy with the results AND with the fact that they look even worse about them with their own supporters.
As much as I hold Israel in contempt, Jerusalem makes sense as the capital of Israel, even if it has to be a shared capital with Palestine (which I favor)

[rvg]

Just finished listening to Bill Clinton's speech. The man's a genius. The rest of the convention was one big blah, but he might just have handed Obama four more years in the office. Brilliant speech.

[drone]

Just finished listening to Bill Clinton's speech. The man's a genius. The rest of the convention was one big blah, but he might just have handed Obama four more years in the office. Brilliant speech.

Clinton is a master, without term limits he might still be the Prez. There's a reason the GOP brass despises him, they know they can't beat him.

Of course, the DNC is stupid enough to put it's sole rockstar on TV at the same time as the first NFL game of the season. I caught the speech on youtube, who is going to pick DNC speeches over Cowboys v Giants?

[Xiahou]

WaPo has a synopsis of Woodward's new book, chronicling the infamous debt ceiling negotiations.

Among the more interesting tidbits to me was the amount of contempt Pelosi/Reid showed towards Obama...

As the final details of the 2009 stimulus package were being worked out on Capitol Hill, Obama phoned the speaker’s office to exhort the troops. Pelosi put the president on speakerphone so everyone could hear.

“Warming to his subject, he continued with an uplifting speech,” Woodward writes. “Pelosi reached over and pressed the mute button. They could hear Obama, but now he couldn’t hear them. The president continued speaking, his disembodied voice filling the room, and the two leaders got back to the hard numbers.”

[Lemur]

Of course, the DNC is stupid enough to put it's sole rockstar on TV at the same time as the first NFL game of the season. I caught the speech on youtube, who is going to pick DNC speeches over Cowboys v Giants?

Apparently a lot of people. I do not claim to understand this, but then, I gave up on broadcast TV entirely, so your world is a mystery to me.

Democratic Convention Beats Football In Ratings

The second night of the Democratic National Convention beat the Republicans in television ratings and, perhaps more impressively, beat pro football.

An estimated 25.1 million people watched the convention between 10 p.m. and 11 p.m. on Wednesday, when former President Bill Clinton delivered an impassioned nomination speech for President Barack Obama, the Nielsen ratings company said.

During that hour, just over 20 million people were watching the second half of the Dallas Cowboys' season-opening victory over the New York Giants. Faced with competition from Clinton, ratings for football's first game were down from the past two years. [...]

The entire football game was seen by an average of 23.9 million people on NBC, Nielsen said. Last year's opening game was seen by 27.1 million, and 2010's game had a record 27.5 million. The opening game generally features the Super Bowl champion from the year before.

[drone]

An estimated 25.1 million people watched the convention between 10 p.m. and 11 p.m. on Wednesday, when former President Bill Clinton delivered an impassioned nomination speech for President Barack Obama, the Nielsen ratings company said.

I had no idea we had that many communists in this country!

[Lemur]

Obama: 'Help Us Destroy Jesus And Start A New Age Of Liberal Darkness'



CHARLOTTE, NC—With the savage roar of the heathen Democratic horde rising all around him, President Barack Obama delivered an incendiary speech to close his party’s national convention Thursday night, commanding the ultraprogressive minions in attendance to help him “destroy Jesus and usher in a new age of liberal darkness that shall reign o’er the earth for a thousand years.”

The thunderous 45-minute address—during which the president argued for a second term so that he could “finally kill Jesus once and for all, as well as all those who worship him”—was well received by the frenzied, wild-eyed audience, whose piercing chants of “Four more years!” and “Slaughter the believers!” echoed throughout the Time Warner Cable Arena.

“My fellow Americans and godless infidels, I command you to join me as we cast an endless pall of far-left evil across the hills and valleys of our nation!” Obama bellowed from the stage, as thousands in attendance moaned in compliance and gyrated their hips and groins in a lascivious dance. “Together, as a barbarian people forged by the wicked flames of irreligiosity and united by visions of a liberal dystopia, we will rise up as one to scorch the earth with boundless amorality.”

“The streets shall run red with the blood of forced sodomy, performed daily upon every American man, woman, and child!” the commander-in-chief shouted, froth forming around his mouth as the crowd threw hundreds of aborted fetuses onto the stage. “Die, Christians, die!”

Slamming his fists on the lectern until his hands began to bleed, Obama proceeded to lay out a “three-point plan of sin and lechery” for his second term. If reelected, the president said, he would begin by banning organized religion entirely—starting with Christianity—and burning all churches to the ground, preferably “with their wretched, Jesus-loving congregants still huddled inside like rats.”

As members of the audience violently tugged at their genitals and howled like sex-starved, atheist wolves, Obama stated that his administration would then seek to make free, taxpayer-funded abortions legal at any stage of pregnancy, even up to one full year after birth, in order to supply his newly created “federal stem-cell harvesting plants” with raw materials.

In addition, the cackling president vowed to “end traditional marriage as we know it” by passing legislation that would allow only homosexuals to raise children, a longtime Democratic policy goal.

“A glorious new age of sinister, unconstrained liberalism is dawning! Oh, dear Satan, I can feel it coursing through my veins at this very moment!” shrieked Obama, ripping off his shirt to reveal an ornate tattoo of a pentagram, with a different homosexual act positioned at each of the star’s five points. “Agnosticism, contempt for human life, and radical sexual experimentation shall rule the day! Any good, virtuous, family-values-oriented Christian Americans who seek to topple our magnificent liberal kingdom of eternal darkness will be powerless to stop us! We will crush them!”

Added Obama, “Thank you, may Satan reward you all, and may God tremble in fear at the United States of America!”

The president was then handed an unbaptized, orphaned newborn baby drenched in the blood of 666 slaughtered Christians, which he handed over to its new, gleefully squealing homosexual parents.