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    Default Why the constant need to bow to the outrage of the few?

    This is more an USA thing in my eyes, but it has started to spread a bit in Europe as well..

    There a possibly billions of examples, but I will lead with this one:

    Some of the best skiers decided to hold a stupid competition earning "points" on the slopes, this was in California. They got points for different stuff, ie, talking with your mum on the phone while doing a crazy line - or skiing down nude.

    Someone, or a few, got upset by this horrible naked skiing. And the management ordered all their lift cards taken. They then sent a crew out to interview people on town, but after a whole long day, they didn't find a single person opposing it. Not... One... Single... Person...

    Also, imagine the "value" for the resort at large, some of the worlds best skiers doing absolutely crazy lines down, butt nekkid. They will go home and be like "Wow man, you have no idea what's going on there, you should give it a try".

    Afterwards, it turned out that 2 (TWO!) people had called in about it.

    And somehow that outweights the hundreds of people high fiving it.



    This is just a stupid example, I know. But the pattern at large can be seen everywhere...

    Why this tendency to bow to a loud morally uproared minority? Why does a small minority have precedence over what people at large would chuckle at?

    This is more common in the states than here, thankfully. But it IS slowly spreading. Europe is getting more cooperate by the day...

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    You are obviously not thinking of the children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Why this tendency to bow to a loud morally uproared minority?...
    What makes you think it's a minority?
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    They then sent a crew out to interview people on town, but after a whole long day, they didn't find a single person opposing it. Not... One... Single... Person[...]Afterwards, it turned out that 2 (TWO!) people had called in about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Because he says so.
    Without looking at the big picture... the overall majority of people in America is unlikely to approve of this kind of behavior. If this makes its way into the news channels (which it would, if they didn't put an immediate stop to it), it would cost the resort its reputation, i.e. clients, i.e. money. Businesses do not like losing money, so they put a stop the kind of behavior that might eat into their profits.
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    Default Re: Why the constant need to bow to the outrage of the few?

    I'm pretty sure naturalist camps exist in the US.
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    Default Re: Why the constant need to bow to the outrage of the few?

    Why ski naked it's silly, if you still want to do it in a naturalist camp. I certainly won't like it if they do a naked marathon here, you can of course I wouldn't object but it's so pointless. What is the point anyway

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    Default Re: Why the constant need to bow to the outrage of the few?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Why this tendency to bow to a loud morally uproared minority? Why does a small minority have precedence over what people at large would chuckle at?

    This is more common in the states than here, thankfully. But it IS slowly spreading. Europe is getting more cooperate by the day...
    It is an interesting question. Maybe it is normal to listen to complaints and try to go for a middle way, but that is increasingly becoming an issue because everyone seems to be offended by even small things. Maybe a side effect of this era of individualism and cultural clashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    It is an interesting question. Maybe it is normal to listen to complaints and try to go for a middle way, but that is increasingly becoming an issue because everyone seems to be offended by even small things. Maybe a side effect of this era of individualism and cultural clashes.
    It's just about politeness imho. If something isn't apreciated somewhere why do it there, world is big enough to do it somewhere else. I don't give a crap about naked skiing myself but if it isn't apreciated I just wouldn't do it. What is this fight about anyway, skiing naked.

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    Default Re: Why the constant need to bow to the outrage of the few?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    It's just about politeness imho. If something isn't apreciated somewhere why do it there, world is big enough to do it somewhere else. I don't give a crap about naked skiing myself but if it isn't apreciated I just wouldn't do it. What is this fight about anyway, skiing naked.
    That is just his example. Whether it was a good or bad example is not important to me. It is the question about the general tendency of increasing political correctness and its impact that I focus on.

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    Default Re: Why the constant need to bow to the outrage of the few?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    It's just about politeness imho. If something isn't apreciated somewhere why do it there, world is big enough to do it somewhere else. I don't give a crap about naked skiing myself but if it isn't apreciated I just wouldn't do it. What is this fight about anyway, skiing naked.
    Out of curiosity...

    Just where do you draw the line, Frags? How much behaviour can I demand stopped before you think I'm limiting their freedom?

    As an example: can I stop a music event if the music and/or stage show offends me?

    (but please don't restrict yourself to just my example in your reply, do come up with your own)
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    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Default Re: Why the constant need to bow to the outrage of the few?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Out of curiosity...

    Just where do you draw the line, Frags? How much behaviour can I demand stopped before you think I'm limiting their freedom?

    As an example: can I stop a music event if the music and/or stage show offends me?

    (but please don't restrict yourself to just my example in your reply, do come up with your own)
    Whatever is reasonable should be fine

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    Default Re: Why the constant need to bow to the outrage of the few?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Whatever is reasonable should be fine
    Yes, I know that. That's why I asked you how you define reasonable...
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Default Re: Why the constant need to bow to the outrage of the few?

    Because people who don't care often really don't care.

    People who care, shout, moan, rage and go through twists and tangles to make sure YOU know they care. They get a reaction.

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