EBOT 2012 July

**Brave Brave Sir Robin** · 07-23-2012, 01:54

Compare Samnitici Milites and Neitos for example. Kopides are basically longswords with -1 attack. Also Thorakitai Hoplitai don't perform nearly as well as they used to (regular Thorakitai are substantially more useful now it seems).

Also, not true that Pedites are the only tier 4 kopis unit. Basilikon Agema also fit that criteria. But they are used to being overlooked. Those poor guys couldn't even get good stamina.

And we like the useful spears. At least I do. They're great.

**The Celtic Viking** · 07-23-2012, 02:10

Thorakitai Hoplitai gets crushed by Milnaht when using the kopides but wins against them when using the spear.

**gamegeek2** · 07-23-2012, 06:43

Kopides are basically longswords with -1 attack

That's misleading. It's that the units with kopides do not receive the "barbarian bonus" to attack and defense that the longsword-wielding Gauls do.

**Brave Brave Sir Robin** · 07-23-2012, 14:57

Gah and just realized Pedites Extraordinarii don't have good stamina either. These are the only non-tank infantry units that don't have good stamina and both happen to use the kopis. Conspiracy anyone?