Fix for resolution problems.

[Gilrandir]

We're still here, just waiting for someone to ask a question

Ok, but remember, you were waiting for it. This seems to be a wrong thread for it and the problem was broached in my very first post at this forum, but caravel is so starved for questions...
Well, it is about attacking from different provinces. It has been elucidated by Asai that if two armies attack from different provinces the same province of the enemy thus combining into a single army, it (the army) will be headed by the general with more stars. But what if the generals have equal number of stars? What determines the appointment of the joint army's leader - piety, dread, hidden v&vs or random choice of the AI?

[drone]

Well, it is about attacking from different provinces. It has been elucidated by Asai that if two armies attack from different provinces the same province of the enemy thus combining into a single army, it (the army) will be headed by the general with more stars. But what if the generals have equal number of stars? What determines the appointment of the joint army's leader - piety, dread, hidden v&vs or random choice of the AI?

I imagine it would be the same with multi-unit stacks (which I haven't really looked at). Pile a bunch of 1-stars into a stack and see which one gets the nod.

[LordK9]

I'm going to take a complete and totally unevidenced guess: date of rank since all militaries I know of have done it that way forever. If saluting goes back to the middle ages (raising the visor to acknowledge friendly intent), then other such customs may well date back to then.

[Baron von Manteuffel]

I've tried this fix with BKB Supermod, XL Tiberious version, MedMod, Fall of Rome, and others, and it does fix the resolution problems. I always get crashes though and it's usually the next "end of turn" after fighting a battle. Is this related to the ddraw.dll when transitioning from the battle mode to the strategy map? Do you think the button fix would help? It does get annoying crashing after battles but I hate to auto resolve them.

[Stazi]

If you have any problems involving strategy map (especially CTDs) you should try button fix.

[Baron von Manteuffel]

If you have any problems involving strategy map (especially CTDs) you should try button fix.

Thank you I'll give it a try.

[caravel]

Ok, but remember, you were waiting for it. This seems to be a wrong thread for it and the problem was broached in my very first post at this forum, but caravel is so starved for questions...
Well, it is about attacking from different provinces. It has been elucidated by Asai that if two armies attack from different provinces the same province of the enemy thus combining into a single army, it (the army) will be headed by the general with more stars. But what if the generals have equal number of stars? What determines the appointment of the joint army's leader - piety, dread, hidden v&vs or random choice of the AI?

It's the same question as: "two units attack a single province from two different provinces, both units are identical, (0 star generals), which one is chosen as the general?".

Whoever is chosen as the general also determines the border lands chosen for the staging of the battle. It's not clear as to who would be chosen, but if the game engine cannot use command stars then it must have to choose the general based on other generals' stats... if those are also equal then the unit quality would presumably determine which unit leads the army, if both units are the same then the ages of the generals involved may factor in, if both units were trained on the same year, then there is always the campmap province ID... if the game engine could not decide then the game would crash, so there has to be "fail safes" for this.

I would concur with drone, that the best approach would be for you to test it and post your findings...

[Baron von Manteuffel]

I tried the resolution fix and the button fix and applied both to MedMod. Fought a battle and hit end of turn with no problem but while cycling through I was attacked and when this battle was loading I got "error medieval total war encountered an error and will now exit" or something like that. I don't know what else to try?

[drone]

Just out of curiosity, what are your machine specs?

I still occasionally get CTDs when exiting battles, but not really often enough to bother me that much. And now that I've said that, one day it will happen after a epically long Horde battle and I will be a very, very, sad general.

[Baron von Manteuffel]

Windows Vista 64 bit
Model FX6800
Quad core i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67 GHz
ATI Radeon™ HD 4850
RAM 3 GB DDR3
750 GB SATA Hardrive

[drone]

Have you tried running MTW in WinXP or Win2K emulation mode?

[Baron von Manteuffel]

I have tried WinXP mode and it didn't help at all. I just tried the Windows 2000 mode and again, fought a battle with no problem but I was attacked in another provence and "Medieval Total War encountered an error and will now exit". For me, it always happens if I have to fight more than one battle per turn it seems.

[Gilrandir]

Whoever is chosen as the general also determines the border lands chosen for the staging of the battle. It's not clear as to who would be chosen, but if the game engine cannot use command stars then it must have to choose the general based on other generals' stats... if those are also equal then the unit quality would presumably determine which unit leads the army, if both units are the same then the ages of the generals involved may factor in, if both units were trained on the same year, then there is always the campmap province ID... if the game engine could not decide then the game would crash, so there has to be "fail safes" for this.

I would concur with drone, that the best approach would be for you to test it and post your findings...

It is the best approach, but the longest one to find out the answer. So I thought that someone has already tried what you advise and can come up with the results. If some orgers were not lazy to conduct countless one-unit-against-one-unit battles to find out which is better, I was hoping that others have performed numerous unit mergings to find out what qualities of the generals are at work in choosing the head of the joint army. Apparently not. Well, again it's poor me who has to do all the work myself.

[DEB8]

So I thought that someone has already tried what you advise and can come up with the results. If some orgers were not lazy to conduct countless one-unit-against-one-unit battles to find out which is better, I was hoping that others have performed numerous unit mergings to find out what qualities of the generals are at work in choosing the head of the joint army. Apparently not. Well, again it's poor me who has to do all the work myself.

It's said generally, and maybe by someone in particular but I don't know who ; that the only person one can rely on is oneself ! That I learnt many years ago...

Good luck !