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    Once upon a time, there was a prostitute who will not take black men as clients.

    Is she a racist?


    And when prostitution is legalized, if she still refuses to take black men as clients, does Eric Holder rain down fire and hell on her for discrimination?


    Or is refusing to serve someone coffee different than refusing to have sex? And if there are different levels of service ackowledged between coffee and sex, then why not between other things as well? For example, refusing medical care to an Asian family should be a lot worse offense than refusing to sell a sports car to an Asian women. In fact the latter should get a highway patrol safety award to the salesperson.
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    I don't mind racism, unless it is the government doing it. Discriminate based on anything you'd like, but when you get your funding from everyone, don't you dare.
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    If you don't take black men as clients it's obviously racist, do I really care, no. You can pick your own clients if you don't like blacks that's up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    If you don't take black men as clients it's obviously racist, do I really care, no. You can pick your own clients if you don't like blacks that's up to you.
    When you think about it, it's not that simple is it?
    Even if prostitution gets legalised, it's not like other service industries. The factor of sexual preference will still be there.
    If a person is OK with everything else, but not physically attracted to someone due to the colour of their skin, is that being racist?

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    What if it were the other way around. What if a customer rejected a prostitute on the basis of skin colour? Will that be considered racist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rajpoot View Post
    When you think about it, it's not that simple is it?
    Even if prostitution gets legalised, it's not like other service industries. The factor of sexual preference will still be there.
    If a person is OK with everything else, but not physically attracted to someone due to the colour of their skin, is that being racist?

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    What if it were the other way around. What if a customer rejected a prostitute on the basis of skin colour? Will that be considered racist?
    People care too much. I don't have anything with Asian women, I am just not that attracted to them in general. It's just a prefference, nothing wrong with it. Gimme a black beauty anytime though
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    Prostitution is basically consultancy (and yes, I have worked as a consultant and this parallel was used in my second interview). I was always told the rule that a consultant never says no to work - they merely increase the amount they charge.

    Thus to refuse would be technically illegal if it is based purely on the colour of her skin, but if she was to price them out of the market that would be technically OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    People care too much. I don't have anything with Asian women, I am just not that attracted to them in general. It's just a prefference, nothing wrong with it. Gimme a black beauty anytime though
    lol, I never used to care for the looks of most Asian women either, but the more of them I saw, the more the look grew on me. I have seen very, very many smoking hot Asian ladies. I am generally not very attracted to black or Latino women though. There are some whom I consider very attractive, but for the most part, I don't really find most of them that attractive. It is not the skin colours, but just the features that many have I don't think are very complimentary. I have never understood the craze for Latino women. They got their beauties, but on average, I would say they are below average compared to most other women. (at least to my taste)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rajpoot View Post
    When you think about it, it's not that simple is it?
    Even if prostitution gets legalised, it's not like other service industries. The factor of sexual preference will still be there.
    If a person is OK with everything else, but not physically attracted to someone due to the colour of their skin, is that being racist?

    Edit:
    What if it were the other way around. What if a customer rejected a prostitute on the basis of skin colour? Will that be considered racist?
    Prostitues sell sex, it's a service. You are paying her to fake an attraction and enjoyment. Given that she won't let you go down on her the chance that you actually brought her to orgasm is, at best, uncertain.

    In which case, there's really no justifiable reason to reject a client based on skin colour. However, she might reject him because:

    A: She thought he was a drug runner.

    B: She thought his attitude to sex would put her in danger

    C: She thought he might not be anatomically compatable.

    Now, in various parts of the world these might co-incide with skin coliur, lighter or darker.

    For example, there's probably a higher prevelence of HIV among black men than white men in Africa because of levels of education, sexual-social circle, and certain cultural preferences.
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    What are the pros and cons of permitting those with the occupational discretion to do so to deny service on the basis of raw prejudice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Prostitues sell sex, it's a service. You are paying her to fake an attraction and enjoyment. Given that she won't let you go down on her the chance that you actually brought her to orgasm is, at best, uncertain.

    In which case, there's really no justifiable reason to reject a client based on skin colour. However, she might reject him because:

    A: She thought he was a drug runner.

    B: She thought his attitude to sex would put her in danger

    C: She thought he might not be anatomically compatable.

    Now, in various parts of the world these might co-incide with skin coliur, lighter or darker.

    For example, there's probably a higher prevelence of HIV among black men than white men in Africa because of levels of education, sexual-social circle, and certain cultural preferences.

    you left out

    --racism
    - turned off, lack of attraction, precieved hygiene issues
    - increased possibility of robbery or being forced to take a pimp. Before anyone calls me racist, don't worry, a white customer is the most likely to cut her up and hide her in his trunk
    - a higher tendency (according to the ladies) to behave like a Cheap Charlie, or not tip, or haggle an already agreed upon price

    Assuming it ws legal and regulated, the second and third points above would be less valid. But there are still racists and simply not being attracted, although some will try to lump those together which reminds me of the argument that homophobes make about showering with gay men, but reversed so to speak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    Once upon a time, there was a prostitute who will not take black men as clients.

    Is she a racist?


    And when prostitution is legalized, if she still refuses to take black men as clients, does Eric Holder rain down fire and hell on her for discrimination?
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