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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    You obviously missed the part where I said it was idiotic to harass the kids working at Chick Fil A. I am not attempting to defend the actions of the guy in your video, only to give some perspective on why Chick Fil A elicits such emotion from gay people and their supporters. It has nothing to do with Mr. Cathy's opinions, but his actions. Chick Fil A donates to hate groups. You may call them 'pussified', but that only demonstrates that you have no fucking clue what you are talking about on this issue. I won't even bother with all the anti-gay rhetoric or legislation that they lobby for in the United States, because that's just for pussies. How about their donation in 2009 to Exodus International, which later that year traveled to Uganda to tell the stupid Africans that gay people were destroying their families. The result? The widely condemned 'Kill the Gays' bill. Well, it wasn't completely condemned. The Chick Fil A sponsored Family Research Council lobbied Congress against approving a resolution denouncing Uganda's plan to execute homosexuals. If you don't think that there is a clear link between these groups and the anti-gay violence that is so common in this country and around the world, you are either deluding yourself or you are a fucking moron. After reading your wonderful posts for years, I'll assume it is the former. When you tell a bunch of idiotic Christian zealots that gay people are 'vile, pawns of the enemy', that they are immoral, that they are terrorists, and that the blood of US Marines is on their hands, most will be content to applaud because they are pussies who understand such comments are just an adult version of playground name calling. There will always be those few warriors for Christ who actually believe what they are being told, however. And if you believe all the things that Chick Fil A supported hate groups say about gay people, why wouldn't you want to hurt them? It's called 'incitement to violence', by the way.

    No, I'm sorry, this is not about working for someone with different opinions than your own, or 'the ability to organize and cooperate with people we don't much like'. What Chick Fil A does is not normal corporate lobbying. Very few corporations give any money toward social issues, and even fewer donate directly to hate groups. Their activities go so far beyond a 'principled stance on marriage' (LOL) that the assertion of such is patently ridiculous.
    My response was to your comments that you do not see how any grown up could choose a career at Chic Fil A. Not everyone can afford to walk away from employment because their bosses politics appalls them. If that were the case, we would lose 50% of our federal workers every four years. I happen to find mass scale financial crimes and cheats just as appalling as people who advocate the discrimination against others, because of the far reaching and permanent effects it has on people's lives and the future of the country, but I would never belittle someone for toiling awayfor Bank Of America or AIG, no matter how many lives they have destroyed. I do, however, refuse tot ake insurance cases from AIG because I can afford to.

    The oringinal gay violence story you linked had nothing to do with Chic Fil A or the christian organizations. You may think it does, just like Fallout 3 made that guy shoot up the movie theater. Go ahead and make the connection if you want. Of course there are Americans who listen to these groups and act on their impulses, just like there are plenty of people who are anti-gay but not the least bit religious. Just like there are people who do things so idiotic and stupid we constantly walk a fine line of having or thoughts policed and our freedoms skimmed because we have to protect the masses from the savage few.

    Regarding their activities in foriegn countries, with people who are ignorant, illiterate and superstitiously religious: Appalling isn't it? Just like so many of the other things US companies, political groups and the government itself supports. I am curious where this passion of yours was when we had ROEs in Iraq that advocated shooting anyone with a cell phone after an IED exploded, when we put people in jail for a non violent drug crime, when we bombed the civilians in Belgrade to avoid fighting the Serbs on the battlefield, and when we gave corporations the rights of a human being to buy and sell US poloiticians at their whim? I dunno, maybe the passion is there and I just missed it.

    I am well aware of the garbage this organization puts out and the things they support, and would never associate with them. And I have said time and time again that Cathy is an idiot, and would never survive if he had share holders.

    Nothing I saw on Tony Perkins list of quotes was all that worse than the crap spewed back and forth between the parties and their pundits, to include the stuff about the military. Typical American loudmouth. Carry on.

    So this guy is supporting hate groups by proxy. Nothing new here. I seem to recall there were Republican congressmen who were ddeply involved with the Kill The Gay Ugandans issue, yet they continue to serve in office. Why aren't you attacking the people who voted for Jim Inhofe?

    You seem to think I am completely unaware of what is going on and a "flowershaped meringue" when in fact the only thing I took issue with was your disdain for someone's choice of employment in a period of 9% unemployment and the worst economy of our life. So I will leave you to it.
    Last edited by Beskar; 08-06-2012 at 17:08.
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