The ban on Holocaust denial is crap

**drone** · 08-15-2012, 15:19

Personally, I think laws against Holocaust denial are stupid and misguided. It's way more fun to point and laugh at the machinations of the racists. That being said, the Org has never been a full free speech zone. We already have topics that are forbidden, and some of them are forbidden for legal reasons (they would get us in trouble). This is no different.

**Papewaio** · 08-15-2012, 23:14

Patrons are asked to self moderate themselves.

Mr Elite Truths statements would be considered Holcaust Denial which can trigger problems for members in Belgium and Germany. Considering one of our current admins is a Belgium resident, a previous one is German and Tosa will always be a part of the Netherlands where he lays in rest... We have quite a few patrons who are law abiding citizens and administrators who are held accountable for the overall tone and actions of the Org.

Andres approach was a surgical strike on the problematic issue at hand. My approach that I've unsuccessfully argued for was more akin to castration with a pair of bricks. I have lobbied for a more broader approach that would make such a topic banned under more general terms.

Andres approach creates a self contained event and follows the Orgs approach to copyright and piracy. You can discuss piracy at the Org, you cannot however commit piracy at the Org. You can discuss the Holocaust, it's facts and figures, you can discuss Holocaust Denial, you cannot however commit Holocaust Denial at the Org.

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Vuk these have been some of the wisest posts I've seen from you. Keep bringing your A game to the backroom.

thechicken you've made some good posts, riled a few feathers, and touched up the paranoid. You are a natural for the Backroom. Also you might want to increase your post count to post length ratio as posts in a Watchtower don't count. I'm sure your posts and eloquence will find some worthy adversaries amongst the patrons.

**SoFarSoGood** · 08-15-2012, 23:30

Nothing to add to the above really. The ban is stupid but the ban exists in some countries where people may get into get into trouble for permitting it to be broken. I disagree with it as freedom of speech is golden but my dispute is NOT with the admins but with the Parliaments in the countries they reside in.