Is Islam true?.

[total relism]

the core beliefs are the same (follow Gods code and lead a good life and be rewarded in the afterlife, deviate and you will be punished for all eternity) - this is what is refereed to as a "Death cult"

to use your Pizza analogy - all 3 Pizza's have ham, you are just arguing over how much ham is right...

core beliefs in one god, but you just described every religion in the world but christianity. Witch says, god want all in haven no matter what you have done, good,bad etc. But cant allow you in with sin. Here is a free sacrifice and forgiveness because i love you. Please accept and go live life they way I you should.

Analogy fail. Really all three are different slices of the same pizza. That is all three religions worship the same god. So the followers of one prophet or the other of the same god can't be wrong.

But I was really saying that if Yaweh/Jehova is real, then Odin, Zeus, Brahmin, Raiden, the Jade Emperor, etc are all real too. Or (and this is the most likely) none of them are real.

They do not follow the same god, I do recommend you try reading the bible and koran, that come back and honestly claim this.

I understood what your saying, but again that is impossible, have you not herd of the law of contradiction? Something that claims to be blue [bible] cant also be black [islam]. That should be simple enough to get.

[drone]

They do not follow the same god, I do recommend you try reading the bible and koran, that come back and honestly claim this.

OK, I'll bite on this one. If they don't follow the same god, why is Jesus considered a prophet in Islam?

[total relism]

OK, I'll bite on this one. If they don't follow the same god, why is Jesus considered a prophet in Islam?

Yes jesus is, but a very different jesus than the jesus of bible. Watch debates on Op Muhammad got info from local jews/christians, but only by word. That is why he also contains material from books like the infancy gospel of thomas in the koran.Bible says jesus first miracle was water into wine, koran says from childhood, many other exsaplmes but that is just one. T

forgery in koran
Jesus made a bird from clay and preached from the cradle 5 109-111
Jesus preaching from cradle 3.46
Jesus speaking as baby 19.30-37 clay bird to life by Jesus 3.49-52
These come from the infancy gospel of Thomas, that noone non-muslim sees as authoritative, but a forgery written in local Arabia hundered of years after jesus and thomas died. ps jesus still living.


the satanic verses
pretty funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v20VvP19kCI
here is debate on it
Adnan Rashid vs. David Wood: "The Satanic Verses: Fabricated or Authentic?"
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2008...d-satanic.html

[drone]

And the 4 gospels, written many lifetimes after the death of Jesus, handpicked by the church leaders into the canon, and translated, are 100% historically accurate?

My question was not how Muslims and Christians perceive and portray Jesus. They both accept that he existed, but Muslims do not believe him to be a son of god, merely a prophet so of course there will be differences. However, the fact that they consider him a prophet and not some random heretic point to the Christian god and Muslim God being one and the same. We can get into the angels if you want.

[Kadagar_AV]

It's kind of endearing how he goes on nilly willy... By now he even gave up arguing against someone, he goes straight to sprouting propaganda.

[drone]

I am curious how he plans on explaining Abraham.

[total relism]

And the 4 gospels, written many lifetimes after the death of Jesus, handpicked by the church leaders into the canon, and translated, are 100% historically accurate?

My question was not how Muslims and Christians perceive and portray Jesus. They both accept that he existed, but Muslims do not believe him to be a son of god, merely a prophet so of course there will be differences. However, the fact that they consider him a prophet and not some random heretic point to the Christian god and Muslim God being one and the same. We can get into the angels if you want.

evidence to the contrary? have you ever seen any debates on translation of bible? my guess not so much, nt was written last book by 95 ad latest by apostle john before his death. Church choosing cannon? not so much either, accurate yes over 99% only 1,000 words in question, none effect doctrine. Please watch here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuiayuxWwuI

As you are clearly Muslim [its about time you guys started to show up, atheist get predictable] How do you reconcile differences,contradictions in koran.bible when Muhammad said bible is 100% accurate in 600 AD. We have complete bibles from 400 ad on.

The koran itself says man cannot change the words of allah, the koran says the torah and gospel cannot be corrupted by man, yet you claim the gospel has been corrupted you contradict your own koran by claiming the bible is corrupted, read your own koran 6.115 and 18.27.
allah promised jesus his followers will have power over those that try to corrupt his words. 40 70-72
61.14 says O you who have believed, be supporters of Allah , as when Jesus, the son of Mary, said to the disciples, "Who are my supporters for Allah ?" The disciples said, "We are supporters of Allah ." And a faction of the Children of Israel believed and a faction disbelieved. So We supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became dominant.

you cannot believe in some parts of scripture but not others 2.84-85 173-175 or you will go to hell
believers are to believe in all scripture 42.15
have faith in previous scripture formerly reveled 4.135-137
10.94 koran says to ask people who have read scripture before you
jews at the time of Muhammad are said to have gods own word in the torah 5 42-44
jews Christians were reading true scripture at time of Muhammad 2.113-114
allah and those who have been given the book, have one and the same god ,Muslims believe in what was reveled to jews and Christians before Muhammad 29.46-49
Muslims must be inconsistent believing gospels are not accurate and same times accepting information from gospel of Thomas and others written far later.

many more passages could be sited, but if you claim the bible has been corrupted, than you go against Allahs eternal word and Prophet Muhammad.



bud-ism or Hindu say jesus was prophet as well,does that mean they are the same? what about Mormon/Jehovah witness,they do as well. We all worship the same god, he is just very diffident in every other way lol.

[a completely inoffensive name]

TR stay on the original topic.

Do you eat pizza?

[drone]

As you are clearly Muslim [its about time you guys started to show up, atheist get predictable] How do you reconcile differences,contradictions in koran.bible when Muhammad said bible is 100% accurate in 600 AD. We have complete bibles from 400 ad on.

Well, that's the first time I've been "accused" of being a Muslim.

Before this goes any farther, I'll ask you this question: Do you believe the Christian god is the same as the Hebrew god?