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    The rights of everyone are supposed to be protected, not just the majority. Otherwise the “Majority” might think that rvg shouldn’t have that kind of car or even that rvg should not live where he does. Why do you think we did away with the “Jim Crow Laws”?
    I was waiting for this... I was waiting for someone to draw a comparison between the civil rights struggle and the legalization of weed. If you think smoking weed is a civil right, then, well...


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    You have heard the phrase "tyranny of the majority", right?
    Sure. If disallowing weed is tyranny, then so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    I was waiting for this... I was waiting for someone to draw a comparison between the civil rights struggle and the legalization of weed. If you think smoking weed is a civil right, then, well...



    Sure. If disallowing weed is tyranny, then so be it.
    The notion that disallowing weed is tyranny does, on the face of it, seem laughable.

    But then when you see the numbers of people imprisoned or fired from their jobs, it seems less like hyperbole. The very fact that it seems silly and insignificant would suggest that judicial intervention was highly disproportionate.

    My question to you now, is whether you think infidelity should be made illegal? After all, you have stated that laws should mirror societal dissaproval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    The notion that disallowing weed is tyranny does, on the face of it, seem laughable. But then when you see the numbers of people imprisoned or fired from their jobs, it seems less like hyperbole. The very fact that it seems silly and insignificant would suggest that judicial intervention was highly disproportionate.
    I have said repeatedly that I do not have a problem with replacing jail sentences with fines in cases of pot users. Maintaining the social stigma is my main goal, and fines here would do just as well as jail.

    My question to you now, is whether you think infidelity should be made illegal? After all, you have stated that laws should mirror societal dissaproval.
    Outlawing infidelity is like outlawing alcohol: impractical. Not a bad idea in theory, but only in theory.
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    Outlawing infidelity is like outlawing alcohol: impractical. Not a bad idea in theory, but only in theory.
    Oh crikey, there really is no hope for you
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    I think the group pile-on with RVG is a little bit unseemly. He's admitted that he has no metric, logic, or large-scale reason to his position—he just doesn't like weed and wants it to stay illegal.

    IMHO, that's enough said.

    What do other posters expect, a change of heart and a mea culpa? That sort of turnaround is exceedingly rare, and requires a lot from the person being asked to admit error.

    It's enough that we all lay out our positions and our reasoning. Nobody is required to say, "Crikey, you're right and I was wrong!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    What do other posters expect, a change of heart and a mea culpa? That sort of turnaround is exceedingly rare, and requires a lot from the person being asked to admit error.

    It's enough that we all lay out our positions and our reasoning. Nobody is required to say, "Crikey, you're right and I was wrong!"
    Duty calls.

    And by the way, I'm highly disappointed you didn't post the stoned dog picture in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Especially when one does not believe to be wrong.
    Hey man, if you think you've laid out your case in favor of continued prohibition as clearly and convincingly as possible, enough said.

    Have some cake. Relax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Nobody is required to say, "Crikey, you're right and I was wrong!"
    Especially when one does not believe to be wrong. I mean, someone can demand to be allowed to walk naked in public and be denied that as well. He can cry foul all he wants, but I doubt it'll make a difference. Laws are here to protect people's civil rights and reflect the will of the people. No matter what the will of the people might be, there would be someone who has a problem with it. We aren't obligated to accommodate anyone's personal whims in any way, shape or form.
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