Secession is on the minds of some states today as petitions are filed.
Secession news article.
Huffington Post article.
I think these guys are crying way to hard about who won the seat in the white house. Civil war ala 2012 coming up.
Secession
Secession is on the minds of some states today as petitions are filed.
Secession news article.
Huffington Post article.
I think these guys are crying way to hard about who won the seat in the white house. Civil war ala 2012 coming up.
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Re: Secession
LOL ok, I think the secession of Eastern Washington made it on the ballot once. I don’t think we need to take it seriously until State Legislatures start voting themselves out of the union
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Re: Secession
Since many of the states where these are filed from couldn't survive without federal funding, I don't see this going anywhere.
Lefties complained and "threatened" to leave the country after the Bush 43 election, so this is just typical of the current climate. The whole "we won/we lost" crap really gets on my nerves though. We are all Americans and we are all getting screwed over by the same people.
If some of the nuts don't want to live in the upcoming godless Sodom that is inevitable with a second Obama term, I can suggest a couple of places they might like. I hear the Middle East is the place to be if you want religious fundamentalism and women as second class citizens.
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Re: Secession
This is a non-issue.
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Yup, I would take this about as seriously as I took various threats by Dems to move to Canada during the Bush 43 years. Good for entertainment value, nothing more.
The only notable thing about secessionists is when politicos flirt with them. This is not taking place right now.
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Being honest, I would probably have moved to Canada if I was American.
Though Australia is always tempting.
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I doubt it.
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I feel like there should be an Onion article in this somewhere but I cant find it.
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Re: Secession
Welcome to Obama's America, where our states are bribed against the notions of self determination and STATES RIGHTS.
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Re: Secession
Why so?
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The Constitution contains a provision/process for joining the USA. There is no process for leaving the union after having joined. The only attempt to do so was squelched by force. Interestingly, the Congress did approve the secession of one part of a single state from the rest of that state....while fighting the war to prevent secession by the states. Bedad but I love history.
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Re: Secession
I don't see how these guys can expect to be taken seriously. I guess this is a sad reflection of how polarised American politics is these days.
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
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Because it's silly to leave one's home country just because the guy you don't support got elected. Simpler to just wait until his term expires.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
Re: Secession
Jews in 1933 might have a diffrent opinion on that....
Remember that Barack bin Hussein Osama is the Anti-Christ.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Bah, this crisis is too small for secession. When you guys get to cca. 15-20% unemployment, then you should get worried.
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you know what they say.
if at first you don´t secede, try, try again.
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Re: Secession
You know as well as I do that no thread concerning Texas is complete without nazis.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Secession
They can form a union with Quebec; The Independent Republic of People Who Are Really Really Dissatisfied.
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Isn't that called a "retirement home"?
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Secession
Re: Secession
The people who are in favor of this are the same kinds of people who can't find their own cock if you had the decency to find their gut for them. All hat, no cattle
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Re: Secession
States should only be allowed to secede if their petition passes the same rigor that it takes to admit a state into the union.On a serious note, I do think any state (or any region that is more or less unanimously in agreement on the issue) should have the right to secede. However, that is not the case here. At best, you only have an angry minority of wing-nuts clamoring for this, and I doubt they'd even know what to do if they got their wish.
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I hope they do secede. The world map has been way too static for too long... I want more flags and country capitals for pub quizzes.
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On another note, with all the people who end up on no-fly lists for no particular reason, it would be interesting to see how these on-line partition signers fair the next time they want to travel.
I think I heard that it is up to 40 States now. If it continues the country will consist of Washington DC and P-R when they are admitted…
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Interesting reactions to the same situation from Democrat and Republican nut jobs.
When the evil Republican president is elected, the Democrats want to flee the country. When the evil Democrat president is elected, the Republicans want to carve out their own separate country.
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Nah, you had that United States of Canada (I think) and Jesusland maps when the separation jokes were high last time. The Republicans also have the problem of fleeing to what country? The Democrats fits in better in say Canada and most of Europe.
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Re: Secession
Actually, the real fringers are talking secession to "carve out? a country of their own liking or a civil war to take control of the country and establish a different government under a new (actually older and less "interpreted") version of the Constitution.
For those thinking along these lines, I do hope that they recall that, howevermuch the founders may have believed that it was the right of the people to "institute a new government," none of the founders thought that the people could do so without the old government fighting back. The right of the people to "keep and bear arms" was affirmed so as to permit them the possibility of so altering the government -- not to prevent them having to pay the price to effect such a change.
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Re: Secession
Troubling times:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/i...-2012111448938
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Technically that's not quite true. West Virginia formally seceded from the Union on April 17, 1861, when Virginia left. At that point, West Virginia was still part of Virginia and it was covered by the secession of its parent state. The people of West Virginia then voted themselves a new government, which then went through a formal legislative process to create a new state and then petitioned Congress to be admitted to the Union. As such, Congress never approved the secession of West Virginia, they simply admitted a new state that had formed on its own, as they had done many times before, and have done many times since.
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